I wonder why this isn't getting any press coverage?SEEING IS BELIEVING!
http://au.mg1.mail.yahoo.com/ya/download?mid=1%5f1910020%5fALhFv9EAAOHzR24b6wrv7Gl 36LI&pid=2.1.2&fid=Inbox&inline=1
http://au.mg1.mail.yahoo.com/ya/download?mid=1%5f1910020%5fALhFv9EAAOHzR24b6wrv7Gl 36LI&pid=2.1.3&fid=Inbox&inline=1
http://au.mg1.mail.yahoo.com/ya/download?mid=1%5f1910020%5fALhFv9EAAOHzR24b6wrv7Gl 36LI&pid=2.1.4&fid=Inbox&inline=1
http://au.mg1.mail.yahoo.com/ya/download?mid=1%5f1910020%5fALhFv9EAAOHzR24b6wrv7Gl 36LI&pid=2.1.5&fid=Inbox&inline=1The Iraqi jet, an advanced Russian MiG-25 Foxbat, was found buried in the sand after an informant tipped off U.S . troops.The MiG was dug out of a massive sand dune near the Al Taqqadum airfield by U.S. Air Force recoveryteams. The MiG was reportedly one of over two dozen Iraqi jets buried in the sand, like hidden treasure,
waiting to be recovered at a later date. Contrary to what some in the major media have reported, not all the jets found were from the Gulf War era.
The Russian-made MiG-25 Foxbat being recovered by U.S. Air Force troops in the photos is an advanced reconnaissance version never before seen in the West and is equipped with sophisticated electronic warfare devices.U.S. Air Force recovery teams had to use large earth-moving equipment to uncover the MiG, which is over 70 feet long and weighs nearly 25 tons.
The Foxbat is known to be one of Iraq 's top jet fighters. The advanced electronic reconnaissance version found by the U.S. Air Force is currently in service with the Russian air force. The MiG is capable of flying at speeds of over 2,000 miles an hour, or three times the speed of sound , and at altitudes of over 75,000 feet.
The recovery of the advanced MiG fighter is considered to be an intelligence coup by the U.S. Air Force.. The Foxbat may also be equipped with advanced Russian- and French-made electronics that were sold to Iraq during the 1990s in violation of a U..N. ban on arms sales to Baghdad .
The buried aircraft at Al Taqqadum were covered in camouflage netting, sealed and, in many cases, had their wings removed before being buried more than 10 feet beneath the Iraqi desert.X Marks the SpotThe discovery of the buried Iraqi jet fighters illustrates the problem faced by ! U.S. inspection teams searching Iraq for weapons of mass destruction. Iraq is larger in size than California, and the massive deserts south and west of Baghdad were used by Saddam Hussein to hide weapons during the first Gulf war.
U.S. intelligence sources have already uncovered several mass grave burial sites in the open deserts with an estimated 10,000 dead hidden there. In addition, Iraq previously hid SCUD missiles, chemical weapons and biological warheads by burying them under the desert sand.
U.N. inspe ction teams found the weapons in the early 1990s after detailed information of the exact locations was obtained.Top U.S. weapons inspector Dr. David Kay is known to favor human intelligence as the primary means to
find Iraq 's hidden treasure trove of weapons and secrets.While there are rumors of Iraqi chemical and biological weapons being shipped to nearby Syria , the weapons may very well still remain inside Iraq buried under the vast desert wastelands.
Some critics of the Bush administration have claimed that the inability of U.S. . forces to uncover weapons of mass destruction is proof that the president misled the nation into the war with Iraq .
However, in recent days the critics have fallen silent as word quietly leaked from Iraq that major discoveries have already been made and are now being documented completely. Bush administration officials are keeping any such discoveries secret for the moment.
Jordan
12-24-2007, 08:50 PM
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MiG-25
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/8/8e/MiG-25_fig2agrau_USAF.jpg
The Mikoyan-Gurevich MiG-25 (Russian: ???-25) (NATO reporting name "Foxbat") is a very high-speed interceptor and reconnaissance/bomber aircraft designed by the Soviet Union's Mikoyan-Gurevich bureau. First flown as a prototype in 1964, it entered service in 1970. With a top speed of Mach 3.2, a powerful radar and four air-to-air missiles, the MiG-25 worried Western observers and Western military analysts responded with the F-15 Eagle.
The aircraft's true capabilities were not discovered until 1976 when Viktor Belenko, a Soviet MiG-25 pilot, defected to Japan. Subsequent analysis revealed a simple-yet-functional design with vacuum-tube electronics, two massive turbojet engines, and sparing use of advanced materials such as titanium. This allowed for a production run of 1,190 aircraft.[1] The MiG-25 flew with a number of Soviet allies and former Soviet republics and it remains in limited service in Russia and several other nations.
Development
The development of the MiG-25 began in the 1950s, paralleling American efforts to develop a Mach 3 bomber and interceptor aircraft, including the experimental XB-70 Valkyrie, the XF-103 Thunderwarrior, the Lockheed YF-12, and the XF-108 Rapier. With the first Mach 2 aircraft beginning to enter service, Mach 3 seemed like the next logical step. A variety of roles were considered, including cruise missile carriers, and even a small five- to seven-passenger supersonic transport, but the main impetus was a new high-altitude reconnaissance aircraft and heavy interceptor. If a Mach 3 bomber were to enter American service, it would have been nearly invulnerable to Soviet air defense.
The Mikoyan-Gurevich OKB accepted the assignment effective 10 March 1961. Although the XB-70 Valkyrie was cancelled before the new Soviet aircraft, which carried the bureau designation "Ye-155" (or "?-155"), reached the prototype stage, it seemed that the Ye-155 would still be a useful addition to the PVO Strany air defense interceptor force for use against reconnaissance targets like the SR-71 Blackbird. It was widely believed that the MiG-25 was developed in response to the XB-70. However, A. Belyankov, head of the MiG design bureau, claimed that this was not in fact the case.
Because of the thermal stresses incurred in flight above Mach 2, the MiG-25 could not be constructed with traditional aluminum alloys. Lockheed had utilized titanium for their YF-12 and SR-71 series aircraft and North American used a honeycombed steel material for the XB-70. Both American companies struggled with the materials used to construct their respective aircraft. In the end, Mikoyan-Gurevich OKB decided the MiG-25 would largely be constructed of nickel alloy steel. The steel components of the MiG-25 were formed by a combination of spot-welding, automatic machine welding and hand arc welding methods. Initially there was concern that the metal welds would crack when the aircraft experienced the normal jolting of a landing. This did not prove to be the case, and any cracks that developed in service were easily welded in the field. A small amount of titanium and aluminum alloy were used in the construction of the MiG-25.
The first prototype, which was actually the reconnaissance variant, designated "Ye-155-R1" by the bureau, made its first flight on 6 March 1964. The prototype interceptor, "Ye-155-P1", took to the air on 9 September 1964. Development, which represented a major step forward in Soviet aerodynamics, engineering and metallurgy, took several more years to complete. In the meantime, several prototypes, under the cover designation "Ye-266" (or "?-266"), made a series of record-setting flights in 1965, 1966, and 1967. Series production of the two initial variants, designated MiG-25P ('Foxbat-A') (interceptor) and MiG-25R ('Foxbat-B') (reconnaissance), began in 1969. The MiG-25R entered Soviet Air Force (VVS) service almost immediately, but the service entry of the MiG-25P with the PVO was delayed until 1972. A non-combat trainer variant was also developed for each version, the MiG-25PU ('Foxbat-C') and MiG-25RU, respectively. The MiG-25R evolved several subsequent derivatives, including the MiG-25RB reconnaissance-bomber, the MiG-25RBS and MiG-25RBSh with side-looking airborne radar (SLAR), the MiG-25RBK and MiG-25RBF ELINT aircraft ('Foxbat-D'), and the MiG-25BM ('Foxbat-F') SEAD variant, carrying four Raduga Kh-58 (NATO reporting name AS-11 'Kilter') anti-radiation missiles.
The MiG-25 was capable of high performance, including a maximum speed of Mach 3.0 and a ceiling of 90,000 ft (27,000 m), although on Aug. 31, 1977, a specially modified MiG E-266M, a modified Foxbat, flown by MiG OKB Chief Test Pilot Alexander Fedotov, set the recognized absolute record for altitude for a jet aircraft under its own power, reaching 123,523.58 (37,650 m) at Podmoskovnoye, USSR in a brief zoom climb. The record is the only recognized absolute record not held by a pilot from the United States.[4]. Some believed that the MiG-25 was designed to intercept the SR-71 Blackbird and to deter, or at least threaten, other high-altitude, high-speed aircraft. However, its maneuverability, range, and close combat potential were extremely limited. Even its tremendous speed was problematic: although the available thrust was sufficient to reach Mach 3.2, a limit of Mach 2.8 had to be imposed to prevent total destruction of the engines [2]. Even Mach 2.8 was difficult to reach without overspeeding the turbines. [3]
Overall, the MiG-25 did not meet its design goals as an interceptor.[citation needed] Interception, to be successful, requires the interceptor to have 25% to 50% more speed and maneuverability than the intended target, plus reasonable endurance and range.[citation needed] The MiG-25 could not match the speed of the B-70 or SR-71, and once reaching their altitude, it could only maintain top speed for 10 minutes.[citation needed] These factors made a successful interception difficult.
Despite these limitations, inaccurate intelligence analysis and several false assumptions caused a panic in the West, where it was initially believed that the MiG-25 was actually an agile air-combat fighter rather than a stand-off interceptor. In response, the United States launched an ambitious new program, which resulted in the McDonnell-Douglas F-15 Eagle.
Description
A true understanding of the strengths and failings of the MiG-25 by the West came in 1976. On 6 September, a PVO pilot, Lt. Viktor Belenko, defected to the West, landing his MiG-25P at Hakodate Airport in Japan. Although Belenko's aircraft was eventually returned to the USSR, it was first carefully dismantled and analyzed by the Foreign Technology Division (now the National Air and Space Intelligence Center) of the United States Air Force, at the Wright-Patterson Air Force Base near Dayton, Ohio. After 67 days, the aircraft was returned to the Soviets in pieces. The analysis showed some surprising facts:
Belenko's particular aircraft was brand new, representing the very latest Soviet technology.
The aircraft was assembled very quickly, and was essentially built around its massive Tumansky turbojets.
Welding was done by hand and construction was relatively crude. As in many Soviet aircraft, rivet heads were left exposed in areas that would not adversely affect aerodynamic drag.
The aircraft was built of a nickel-steel alloy and not titanium as was assumed (though some titanium was used in heat-critical areas). The steel construction contributed to the craft's massive 64,000 lb (29,000 kg) unarmed weight.
The majority of the on-board avionics were based on vacuum-tube technology, not solid-state electronics. Seemingly obsolete, the use of vacuum tubes was ingenious because they were far less susceptible to EMP in case of nuclear warfare and were more tolerant of temperature extremes, thereby removing the need for providing complex environmental controls inside the avionics bays. In addition, the vacuum tubes were easy to replace in remote northern airfields where sophisticated transistor parts may not have been readily available. As with all Soviet aircraft, the MiG-25 was designed to be as rugged as possible.
Thanks to the use of vacuum tubes, the MiG-25P's original Smerch-A (Tornado, NATO reporting name 'Foxfire') radar had enormous power — about 600 kilowatts.
The airspeed indicator was redlined at Mach 2.8, and pilots were required not to exceed Mach 2.5 in order to extend the service life of the engines.[citation needed] In 1973 a MiG-25 was tracked flying over Israel at Mach 3.2, but the flight had resulted in the total destruction of its engines.[4]
Maximum acceleration (g-load) rating was just 2.2 g (21.6 m/s²) with full fuel tanks, with an absolute limit of 4.5 g (44.1 m/s²). One MiG-25 withstood an inadvertent 11.5 g (112.8 m/s²) pull during low-altitude dogfight training, but the resulting deformation made the airframe worthless.
Combat radius was 186 miles (300 km), and maximum range on internal fuel (at subsonic speeds) was only 744 miles (1,200 km). In fact, Belenko had only just made it to Japan without running out of fuel — without sufficient fuel for a carefully planned landing, he narrowly missed a commercial airliner taking off, and overran the available runway on landing.
Most MiG-25s used the KM-1 ejector seat; the last versions, though, used an early variant of the famous K-36 seat. The speed record for the fastest successful ejection (Mach 2.67) is held by a KM-1-equipped MiG-25.
When the existence of the MiG-25 became known to the West, it was alleged that the design was based on the North American A-5 Vigilante.[citation needed] Both aircraft have the same general layout (the A-5 was also initially designed with twin tailfins). Some claim the MiG-25 has its origins in the MiG-21, rather than the Vigilante, but it shares little with the much slower single-engine MiG-21.
As the result of Belenko's defection and the compromise of the MiG-25P's radar and missile systems, beginning in 1978 the Soviets developed an advanced version, the MiG-25PD ('Foxbat-E'), with a new RP-25 Sapfir look-down/shoot-down radar, infrared search and track (IRST) system, and more powerful engines. About 370 earlier MiG-25Ps were converted to this standard and redesignated MiG-25PDS.
About 1,186 MiG-25s were produced before production ended in 1984, and the type was exported to Algeria, Bulgaria (3 MiG-25R and 1 MiG-25RU until 1992), India (until 2006), Iraq, Libya, and Syria. Modest numbers remain in service.
Combat Service
Before entering operational service, four MiG-25Rs were temporarily in service with Egyptian Air Force in 1971 under the cover designation of "X-500". All four had EAF markings. They flew over Israel in pairs roughly 20 times. The Israeli Air Force found it impossible to intercept them , even though Israeli intelligence generally knew when the overflights were scheduled. The MiG-25Rs went back home in 1972, though reconnaissance Foxbats were sent back to Egypt in October 1973, after the Yom Kippur War, and remained there into 1974[5]. The Israeli Air Force did not have the capability to intercept MiG-25's until it received the F-15 Eagle.
The Israelis shot down two Syrian MiG-25s in 1981, while some non-Western sources report that a MiG-25 downed an Israeli F-15 in 1981. Another Syrian MiG-25 was shot down by an Israeli HAWK SAM (surface-to-air missile) in 1982.
The MiG-25 was in service with the Iraqi Air Force during the Iran-Iraq War, but its combat results are unclear.
During the 1991 Gulf War, US military officials initially claimed that no American aircraft was lost in air-to-air combat during the war. However, later investigations indicated that a US Navy F/A-18 piloted by Lieutenant Commander Scott Speicher was shot down by an air-to-air missile on the first night of the war.[6] The kill was reportedly made with a R-40DT missile fired from a MiG-25PDS flown by Lt. Zuhair Dawood of the 84th squadron of the IrAF.[7]
In another incident, an Iraqi MiG-25PD, after eluding eight USAF F-15s, fired three missiles at EF-111 electronic warfare aircraft, forcing them to abort their mission.[8] This may have led to the later loss of an F-15 to surface-to-air missiles, due to the lack of electronic jamming.
In yet another incident, two MiG-25s approached a pair of F-15s, fired missiles (which were evaded by the F-15s), and then outran the American fighters. Two more F-15s joined the pursuit, and a total of ten air-to-air missiles were fired at the MiG-25s, though none could reach them.[9]
According to the same sources, at least one F-111 was also forced to abort its mission by a MiG-25 on the first 24 hours of hostilities, during an air raid over Tikrit.[10]
Two MiG-25s were shot down by U.S. Air Force F-15Cs during the Gulf War. After the war, in 1992, a U.S. F-16 downed a MiG-25 that violated the no-fly zone in southern Iraq.
On December 23, 2002, an Iraqi MiG-25 shot down a U.S. Air Force unmanned MQ-1 Predator drone, which was performing armed reconnaissance over Iraq. This was the first time in history that an aircraft and an unmanned drone had engaged in combat. Predators had been armed with AIM-92 Stinger air-to-air missiles, and were being used to "bait" Iraqi fighter planes, then run. In this incident, the Predator did not run, but instead fired one of the Stingers, which missed, while the MiG's missile did not. [11]
No Iraqi aircraft were used in the 2003 invasion, with most hidden or destroyed on the ground. In August 2003, several dozen Iraqi aircraft were discovered buried in the sand. That included two MiG-25s which were carted off and sent to WPAFB's Foreign Technology Division using a C-5B Galaxy. In December 2006, it was announced that one MiG-25 was being donated to the National Museum of the United States Air Force at Dayton, Ohio. [5] Here showing its restoration.
In May 1997 an Indian Air Force MiG-25RB was detected flying faster than Mach 3 at an altitude of at least 65,000 feet over Pakistani territory. It has been reported that this was a deliberate attempt by the Indian Air Force to demonstrate that the capabilities of the MiG-25 are unmatched by the Pakistani air force.[12]
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/4/47/Mig25_buried_in_iraq.jpg
An Iraqi MiG-25R Foxbat-B buried beneath the sands in Iraq
BrittleSteel
12-25-2007, 04:00 AM
I wonder why this isn't getting any press coverage?SEEING IS BELIEVING!
http://au.mg1.mail.yahoo.com/ya/download?mid=1%5f1910020%5fALhFv9EAAOHzR24b6wrv7Gl 36LI&pid=2.1.2&fid=Inbox&inline=1
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http://au.mg1.mail.yahoo.com/ya/download?mid=1%5f1910020%5fALhFv9EAAOHzR24b6wrv7Gl 36LI&pid=2.1.4&fid=Inbox&inline=1
http://au.mg1.mail.yahoo.com/ya/download?mid=1%5f1910020%5fALhFv9EAAOHzR24b6wrv7Gl 36LI&pid=2.1.5&fid=Inbox&inline=1The Iraqi jet, an advanced Russian MiG-25 Foxbat, was found buried in the sand after an informant tipped off U.S . troops.The MiG was dug out of a massive sand dune near the Al Taqqadum airfield by U.S. Air Force recoveryteams. The MiG was reportedly one of over two dozen Iraqi jets buried in the sand, like hidden treasure,
waiting to be recovered at a later date. Contrary to what some in the major media have reported, not all the jets found were from the Gulf War era.
The Russian-made MiG-25 Foxbat being recovered by U.S. Air Force troops in the photos is an advanced reconnaissance version never before seen in the West and is equipped with sophisticated electronic warfare devices.U.S. Air Force recovery teams had to use large earth-moving equipment to uncover the MiG, which is over 70 feet long and weighs nearly 25 tons.
The Foxbat is known to be one of Iraq 's top jet fighters. The advanced electronic reconnaissance version found by the U.S. Air Force is currently in service with the Russian air force. The MiG is capable of flying at speeds of over 2,000 miles an hour, or three times the speed of sound , and at altitudes of over 75,000 feet.
The recovery of the advanced MiG fighter is considered to be an intelligence coup by the U.S. Air Force.. The Foxbat may also be equipped with advanced Russian- and French-made electronics that were sold to Iraq during the 1990s in violation of a U..N. ban on arms sales to Baghdad .
The buried aircraft at Al Taqqadum were covered in camouflage netting, sealed and, in many cases, had their wings removed before being buried more than 10 feet beneath the Iraqi desert.X Marks the SpotThe discovery of the buried Iraqi jet fighters illustrates the problem faced by ! U.S. inspection teams searching Iraq for weapons of mass destruction. Iraq is larger in size than California, and the massive deserts south and west of Baghdad were used by Saddam Hussein to hide weapons during the first Gulf war.
U.S. intelligence sources have already uncovered several mass grave burial sites in the open deserts with an estimated 10,000 dead hidden there. In addition, Iraq previously hid SCUD missiles, chemical weapons and biological warheads by burying them under the desert sand.
U.N. inspe ction teams found the weapons in the early 1990s after detailed information of the exact locations was obtained.Top U.S. weapons inspector Dr. David Kay is known to favor human intelligence as the primary means to
find Iraq 's hidden treasure trove of weapons and secrets.While there are rumors of Iraqi chemical and biological weapons being shipped to nearby Syria , the weapons may very well still remain inside Iraq buried under the vast desert wastelands.
Some critics of the Bush administration have claimed that the inability of U.S. . forces to uncover weapons of mass destruction is proof that the president misled the nation into the war with Iraq .
However, in recent days the critics have fallen silent as word quietly leaked from Iraq that major discoveries have already been made and are now being documented completely. Bush administration officials are keeping any such discoveries secret for the moment.
Hey Kiwi do you have a link?
Groundpounder
12-27-2007, 10:48 AM
Quite interesting.Jordan posted some facts about the Mig25 that I had forgotten about.
The majority of the on-board avionics were based on vacuum-tube technology, not solid-state electronics. Seemingly obsolete, the use of vacuum tubes was ingenious because they were far less susceptible to EMP in case of nuclear warfare and were more tolerant of temperature extremes, thereby removing the need for providing complex environmental controls inside the avionics bays. In addition, the vacuum tubes were easy to replace in remote northern airfields where sophisticated transistor parts may not have been readily available. As with all Soviet aircraft, the MiG-25 was designed to be as rugged as possible.
Thanks to the use of vacuum tubes, the MiG-25P's original Smerch-A (Tornado, NATO reporting name 'Foxfire') radar had enormous power — about 600 kilowatts.
I remember years ago when I was in the service reading some intelligence reports about the Mig 25's use of vacuum tubes.The reports said that the Soviets believed that the use of vacuum tubes would allow their planes to continue to fly after a nuclear explosion.Meaning that the electromagnetic pulse from the blast wouldn't render the electronics useless like they would be in U.S. planes making them non-flying paper weights.There was some talk about the electromagnetic pulse for a while since it could render everything like communication equipment,ships,planes,computers etc... within range of the blast totally useless.
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