Iran will have nuclear weapon in three years: Mossad

[Paparock]

Iran will have nuclear weapon in three years: Mossad

Israel's Mossad spy agency estimates Iran will develop a nuclear weapon (http://search.breitbart.com/q?s=) within three years and continue to provide rockets to regional armed groups, a newspaper reported on Tuesday.


Mossad director Meir Dagan, in an intelligence assessment presented to Israel's powerful foreign affairs and defence committee on Monday, said the Jewish state (http://search.breitbart.com/q?s=) would face increased threats on all fronts, Maariv daily said.

Dagan's estimate of Iran's nuclear ambitions differs sharply from an assessment by the US intelligence community (http://search.breitbart.com/q?s=) late last year that said Iran had mothballed its nuclear weapons programme in 2003.

That report compiled by 16 US intelligence agencies said the Islamic republic would not be able to attain a nuclear weapon until 2015.

Israel has questioned those findings, claiming that although Iran may have temporarily halted its nuclear drive five years ago it has since relaunched it while pressing ahead with a public uranium enrichment programme.

Tehran has always insisted its nuclear programme is for peaceful purposes.
In Monday's report, Dagan also predicted that Tehran would continue to supply more and better rockets and training to Palestinian militant groups (http://search.breitbart.com/q?s=) in the Gaza Strip.

Dagan added that Iran's allies Syria and the Lebanese Shiite militia Hezbollah were also working to develop an increased rocket ability.
"Syria is improving its surface-to-surface missile system and today the quantity of missiles and rockets is twice as large as two years ago," Dagan said, according to Maariv.

Israel has long perceived Iran as its greatest threat, especially after Iran's President Mahmud Ahmadinejad relaunched its nuclear enrichment programme and repeatedly predicted the demise of the Jewish state.

http://www.breitbart.com/article.php?id=080205110538.ntkw4xel&show_article=1 (http://www.breitbart.com/article.php?id=080205110538.ntkw4xel&show_article=1)

[New Ron]

Whether Iran plans to use Nuclear weapons to destroy Israel or not. Once they aquire them it will serve as a negotiating lever, the world will have to listen to them, almost a "hostage' to Iran, it will last longer then 444 days.

Israel might have to give up Jerusalem to avoid a nuclear war, the whole world that day will tell Israel hey we dont want nuclear war so give it up.

So whether Iran destroys Israel, Israel destroys Iran, or Israel gives up Jerusalem, all three consequences of not stopping Iran from having a nuclear weapon or weapons!

To foresee a danger, is far better then fleeing it later.
to retake the saying: Prevention is better than cure.

[Topmaul]

Here we go again, if Russia wanted Iran to have Nukes they would have them, it is not in Russian interests to have a nuclear Iran in fact it runs counter to safty and security of the country so Russia will not allow it to happen. The world does not revolve around Israel there are bigger issues with Iran getting Nuclear weapons No one wants to see it. Just every one is not willing to publicly say so, there is a lot to be gained by sounding alarm bells regarding a possible Iranian Nuclear weapons program.

No one is going to destroy Israel you can take that to the bank.

[New Ron]

You are so wrong Topmaul. Iran is very capable of one day hurting Israel so bad it will be considered "destroyed"!

The muslim world is actively fighting Israel right now;do you live on mars? I do and even from there I see the truth.

Your bank is going bankrupt soon, so Id rather not bank on it.

[Topmaul]

New Ron you believe Israel will be destroyed? Not going to happen in our life time perhaps some day in the distant future but not today.

[New Ron]

Not destroyed but could be badly damaged, ofcourse it will be rebuilt and will be better than ever. Still due to our naive judgement,like that in pre WWII where we took the word of Hitler that he would not attack Poland. and yet he betrayed that trust.

Now Iran is saying we will never build Nuclear weapons this is only for energy purposes.

does anyone here have anything less then a short term memory.

Pakistan when asked said our nuclear research is only for energy purposes, then one day boom they had nuclear weapons so quickly.

North Korea said our Nuclear research is for energy purposes only, then one day boom they had the nuclear bomb.

Now are we going to believe Iran? why believe a country that openly makes fun of the Holocaust and says it thinks Israel should be wiped off the face of the map? a country that kills its minority religious groups, and supports terror in Afghanistan, Lebanon, and Israel.

[New Ron]

New Ron you believe Israel will be destroyed? Not going to happen in our life time perhaps some day in the distant future but not today.

Whether it happens now or in the distant future, if it is because of Iran ,then it is our fault for allowing Iran to have Nuclear weapons capabilities. Who at this stage can still be stopped.


actually Nuclear weapons or energy is bad for everyones health. Cancers that dont yet exist will soon appear but it will be too late.

When Nuclear energy from the Sun powerfull nuclear energy is there for the taking. Now I sound like a hippi, but its true. Humans are making a mistake by not using solar power. and instead worshipping nuclear radioactive atomic energy. on top of our oil consumption and factory polution.

I dont like Al Gore but he did say many truths.

[Topmaul]

You are becoming tiring, Nuclear power does have it's problems, I agree the future is renewable energies, Let's see what we agree on, does Putin want the stupidest man he ever met to gain Nuclear Weapons? (this is a yes or no question)

[haamimhagolan]

Here we go again, if Russia wanted Iran to have Nukes they would have them, it is not in Russian interests to have a nuclear Iran in fact it runs counter to safty and security of the country so Russia will not allow it to happen.

Like Russia prevented Pakistan, North Korea, and China from obtaining nuclear weapons? Was it in Russian interests for any of these nations to develop nuclear arms? Then why do they now have them?

I agree with Topmaul that Putin will not give nuclear weapons to Iran. Yes, Russia has a better history of protecting Russian-supplied nuclear materials from being diverted than do many other nations - such as France. But Iran's clandestine nuclear program is real, as demonstrated by the repeated revelations surrounding nuclear facilities that were not acknowledged to the IAEA until their existence was leaked by the Iranian opposition.

Putin will not give nuclear weapons to Iran, but he is doing relatively little to stand in the way of Iran acquiring nuclear technology on its own, and he is openly arming Iran to use the Islamic Republic as a foil against the US. A strong Iran keeps US armed forces tied up in the Middle East (whether in a shooting war or in contingency for a shooting war), and diverts US resources from strengthening the eastern flank of NATO - which now includes Poland and the Czech Republic.

Fundamentally, the US and Putin have different world-views and priorities in the Middle East. For the US, Islamic extremism is clearly the greatest threat to Western civilization that we have witnessed since the Second World War. Putin on the other hand, is more interested in weakening the United States, and reviving Russian influence and stature as a global power broker, than he is in containing a threat to the West's oil supply.

On this subject, I agree emphatically with Senator John McCain: when I look in Putin's eyes I see three letters: KGB.

[Tokyo]

No-one wants Iran to have nukes. Islamist extrimists are worse than Nazis. Atleast Nazis had some rules and goals, these muslim extrimist rats want everyone dead and the craziest thing is that they have killed more than a million of other muslims in the last 3 decades.

[New Ron]

You are becoming tiring, Nuclear power does have it's problems, I agree the future is renewable energies, Let's see what we agree on,............................................... ..............

If you are tired take some Vitamin C please. :biggrin:

http://www.mothernature.com/Library/Bookshelf/Books/10/58.cfm

Yes Nuclear power is bad for everyone, not only Iran.

......., does Putin want the stupidest man he ever met to gain Nuclear Weapons? (this is a yes or no question)

You need to ask Putin that question, not me.

I in the first place never said Putin was giving nuclear weapons to Iran.
I said Putin is selling himself to Iran, while the world is trying to curb the Iranian Mullahs from having Nuclear weapons, a Mullah regime that could very well attack Israel.

I have faith that the Iranian people will soon enough take care of the Mullahs so you TopMaul can stop being tired of my calls for alarm.

Iran is a great nation, a beautiful country a suprisingly modern country for those who care to actually research Iran. I have many Iranian friends they are very hospitable and nice people. (They say they have better doctors than in the west :biggrin:) All my Iranian friends are anti Mullah and stand by me when I say Iran cannot have Nuclear weapons grade Uranium.

My intent is to raise the alarm, because I see danger ahead. Im sorry Im tiring people. anyhow im going to be too busy to post soon , so y'all will be spared from my opinions. :biggrin:

[New Ron]

You are becomin tiring,.........................., does Putin want the stupidest man he ever met to gain Nuclear Weapons? (this is a yes or no question)


You mean this stupid man? more like a cunning wolf to me.

http://www.theodoresworld.net/pics/0906/iran_presidentImage3.jpg

:headbang:

[Paparock]

Russia “concerned” over Iranian rocket launch
Wed. 06 Feb 2008

Iran Focus

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London, Feb. 06 - Russia said on Wednesday that it was “concerned” over Iran's nuclear intentions following an announcement by Tehran earlier this week that it had carried out a test launch of a rocket into space, Russian state media reported.

“Any movements in the area of creating such potential arms, of course make others concerned, and moreover make one suspect that Iran could possibly create nuclear arms”, said Russian Deputy Foreign Minister Alexander Losyukov. His remarks were carried by the state news agency Interfax.

Another state news agency, RIA Novosti, quoted him as saying, “Long-range missiles are one of the components of such a [nuclear] weapons system. Naturally, this raises concern".

Losyukov said the test demonstrated the advances the Islamic Republic had made in ballistic missile technology that "raise suspicion towards Iran about its possible desire to create a nuclear weapon".

Iran launched a rocket on Monday which it said was meant to transport a research satellite into orbit next year.

Long-range ballistic missiles are generally designed to deliver nuclear weapons because their payload is too limited for conventional explosives to be efficient. They have a range of 2,500-5,000 kilometres (1,600-3,100 miles).

The White House on Monday called the Iranian launch an "unfortunate" development.

[New Ron]

Hopefully Russia just like China has done recently will stop playing games and will stand by the US to stop Iran from having nuclear weapons. I know Putin is a smart man and could very well do the right thing.

[Paparock]

Iranian nuclear rewrite

Fri. 08 Feb 2008

The Wall Street Journal

REVIEW & OUTLOOK

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Give Admiral Michael McConnell credit for trying to walk back the cat. Questioned this week by the Senate Intelligence Committee, the Director of National Intelligence defended the "integrity and the professionalism" of the process that produced last December's stunning National Intelligence Estimate (NIE) on Iran's nuclear program. Yet his testimony amounts to a reversal of the previous judgment.

The December NIE made headlines the world over for its "key judgment" that in 2003 "Tehran halted its nuclear weapons programs" -- programs that previously had been conducted in secret and in violation of Iran's Nuclear Nonproliferation Treaty obligations.

This was a "high confidence" judgment, though the intelligence community had only "moderate confidence" that the program hasn't since been restarted. The NIE also waded into speculative political and policy judgments, such as that "Tehran's decisions are guided by a cost-benefit approach rather than a rush to a weapon irrespective of the political, economic, and military costs."

So it was little wonder that Iranian President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad quickly called the NIE a "declaration of victory" for Iran's nuclear programs. Diplomatic efforts to pass a third round of U.N. economic sanctions ground to a crawl, though another weak draft resolution is currently making the rounds. Russia decided to ship nuclear fuel to the reactor it has built for Iran at Bushehr, a move it had previously postponed for months and which has worrisome proliferation risks.

Elsewhere, the NIE complicated U.S. efforts to deploy an antiballistic-missile shield in Central Europe. The Israelis worried that the report signaled the death of American seriousness on Iran, possibly requiring them to act alone. At home, Democrats used the NIE to accuse the Administration of hyping intelligence. "It's absolutely clear and eerily similar to what we saw with Iraq," said John Edwards.

Now Admiral McConnell is clearly trying to repair the damage, even if he can't say so directly. "I think I would change the way that we described [the] nuclear program," he admitted to Evan Bayh (D., Ind.) during the hearing, adding that weapon design and weaponization were "the least significant portion" of a nuclear weapons program.

He expressed some regret that the authors of the NIE had left it to a footnote to explain that the NIE's definition of "nuclear weapons program" meant only its design and weaponization and excluded its uranium enrichment. And he agreed with Mr. Bayh's statement that it would be "very difficult" for the U.S. to know if Iran had recommenced weaponization work, and that "given their industrial and technological capabilities, they are likely to be successful" in building a bomb.

The Admiral went even further in his written statement. Gone is the NIE's palaver about the cost-benefit approach or the sticks-and-carrots by which the mullahs may be induced to behave. Instead, the new assessment stresses that Iran continues to press ahead on enrichment, "the most difficult challenge in nuclear production." It notes that "Iran's efforts to perfect ballistic missiles that can reach North Africa and Europe also continue" -- a key component of a nuclear weapons capability.

Then there is the other side of WMD: "We assess that Tehran maintains dual-use facilities intended to produce CW [Chemical Warfare] agent in times of need and conducts research that may have offensive applications." Ditto for biological weapons, where "Iran has previously conducted offensive BW agent research and development," and "continues to seek dual-use technologies that could be used for biological warfare."

All this merely confirms what has long been obvious about Iran's intentions. No less importantly, his testimony underscores the extent to which the first NIE was at best a PR fiasco, at worst a revolt by intelligence analysts seeking to undermine current U.S. policy. As we reported at the time, the NIE was largely the work of State Department alumni with track records as "hyperpartisan anti-Bush officials," according to an intelligence source. They did their job too well. As Senator Bayh pointed out at the hearing, the NIE "had unintended consequences that, in my own view, are damaging to the national security interests of our country." Mr. Bayh is not a neocon.

Admiral McConnell's belated damage repair ought to refocus world attention on Iran's very real nuclear threat. Too bad his NIE rewrite won't get anywhere near the media attention that the first draft did.

[New Ron]

If the stupid Inteligence community cant make up its mind, why should anyone trust their judgement?

What I know is Iran Lies and Lies the one thing they dont lie about is their hate for Israel, and believe me I might critisize Iran but I know they are people of action! People who do actions whether bad or good get some powers,because action is a principle of God. And Iran has promised to wipe Israel off the map of the Earth. I have every reason to believe that promise they have made.

Prevention is better than cure.

Everyone can relax now now, I am going on a little vacation, no more rants from me!
Until I return that is......hehe :biggrin:

[Topmaul]

Ron,
Enjoy your vacation, relax, and have a little fun, maybe learn to Scuba dive or something.

[New Ron]

Ron,
Enjoy your vacation, relax, and have a little fun, maybe learn to Scuba dive or something.

Thanks ,i'll bring you back some fish,if I have time to fish with all the scuba diving training :biggrin:

No really thanks, I may not agree with you on some very important points but I know you seem like a good human being.

see ya when I get back. came back to pick up my hat, left it in the lobby.:biggrin: