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Old 08-29-2009, 11:44 PM
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Arrow Tri-Ball Buckshot when no other buckshot will do the Job

I have no affiliation with this company but send people to products I believe in myself like Glock and Springfield XD handguns.

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Tri-Ball Buckshot when no other buckshot will do the Job




The Dixie Tri-Ball loads in 12 gauge 3”and 3 ½”Magnum consist of three .600” hard cast round balls and is Teflon buffered in a heavy-duty plastic wad. Chokes for Dixie Tri-Ball loads can run from the standard Full Choke of .685”/. 690”, all the way down to .660”, depending on the size of pattern the hunter desires.

Here are some of the results from the May LineBaugh Seminar in Jackson, MS.


RESULTS IN WET PACK
Up front are three recovered buckhshot pellets from Dixie's brand new 3.5 inch Tri-Ball III. This 1200 FPS load, with only 20 feet of travel before impact slammed its 3 ball load into the wet paper as one. The balls deformed somewhat against each other and went on to produce 3 separate "wound channels." One ball penetrated 26 inches, one exited the paper to the side (recovered) and the third pushed to a 23 inch depth.

RESULTS AGAINST BONE AND WET PACK

Tri-Ball III "Entry Wound"


The flattened ball penetrated 3 inches past the bone,
Penetration after Bone


One ball exited the side of the stack at 19 inches and was lost. The remaining pellet - well see the pictures!

Tight 40 yard Tri-Ball III pattern fired on an 8 inch bullseye. This pattern was fired using an extended Briley .695 choke tube and Remington 870 Express Super Mag with just the vent rib and bead for sights on the 26" barrel.

Buckshot: The Good, The Bad and The Ugly(www.gunsandgear.com).

In the article, Bryce M. Towsley reported testing buckshot penetration in wet newspaper. The reported results:
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#4 Buckshot (.24 / 21 grains): 3.5 inches

#1 Buckshot (.30 / 40 grains): 5 inches

#00 Buckshot (.33 / 54 grains): 7 inches

.30-30, 170 grain soft point: 14 inches (control load)
Each 00 bucshot pellet weighs 1/8th ounce. So 9 pellet loads are 1 1/8th ounces and 18 pellet loads are 2 1/4th ounces.

In comparison each Dixie Tri-Ball pellet weighs 3/4ths of an ounce. The three .60 caliber "pellets" together total 2 1/4th ounces.

Tri-Ball II Buckshot: 40 Yard Pattern Test
Shotgun: Browning Gold Stalker, 3" chamber, backbored with a extended Briley Full choke

We have the best patterns from .685" down to .665" chokes and sights help! These loads pattern well within any buckshot patterns we have seen, in fact most loads are inside 7" at 40 yards!. The velocity is 1100'/" with a combined muzzle energy of 2539 ft.lbs.......truely a powerful load for heavy and/or dangerous game in close quaters! The 3-.600" buckshot are completely inside a thick walled plastic wad and buffered. Now, what is also interesting is this combonation patterned extremely tight, unlike buckshot, in the super tight chokes around .665". The other interesting thing is......at 60 yards (a long buckshot distance) the load was still well within 18" kill zone and produced 1889 ft lbs! At 40 yards, an average swamp shot distance, the velocity was at 1013'/" and energy at 2055 ft lbs. Tri-Ball will patern 8" to 10" at 40 yards. I will say that any shotgun/choke combo (12 or 10) that will put 10 to 12 #00 or #000 in the heart/lung area of a deer at a measured 40 yards is some fine buckshot gun.....but that combined energy would still be quite a bit less that the three .600"-315 gr Tri-Balls.

People, I’m not saying Tri-Ball should be used in all cases over other buckshot for social occasions as its recoil is higher and would require a longer target reacquired. What I am saying is in situations such as against cars, penetrating walls, or where you may need to extend the range of the shotgun without going to slugs the Tri-Ball loading deserves your serious attention. It is serious ammo for serious people. Check it out.
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Back in the days of the Muzzel loader and Black powder it was a common practice to load multi-ball loads. During the Civil war there was a load called Buck and ball. It consisted of three 36cal. round balls topped by a 69cal. Musket Ball. Deadly to say the least. Hunters would ofted seat one cal.50 patched ball atop another in their Hawken Guns. Drops Big game in its tracks.....old/new...EZ
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Drops Big game in its tracks.....old/new...EZ
I like seeing old school ideas recycled back into new technology. It kinna gives credit to those that came before us that they were smarter than we'd like to think they were.

Nice find. Bet that would disable a perps vehicle. It would also be something to go to in a intruder scenario where the perp won't go down after 2 rounds of 00 buck. It's an easy fit for defense as it's an intermediate round between the 00 buck and the slug.

Right now I have 00 buck and solid lead foster type slugs. I doubt I'll have much trouble due to a mod choke. Confined spread will knock the air out of them and make a perp feel it a lil more. But not so confined as to limit damage.
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......I recall a few years back, another company made a very similar load with three hard cast lead balls and a pile of buffering powder. I bought three six round packs of the stuff and cut one up to check out the design. They stacked it between hard fibercard spacers.....
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The shock effect of multiple hits happening at the same instant cannot be easily comprehended. The shock is overwhelming. To Man or Beast......EZ
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I like seeing old school ideas recycled back into new technology. It kinna gives credit to those that came before us that they were smarter than we'd like to think they were.

Nice find. Bet that would disable a perps vehicle. It would also be something to go to in a intruder scenario where the perp won't go down after 2 rounds of 00 buck. It's an easy fit for defense as it's an intermediate round between the 00 buck and the slug.

Right now I have 00 buck and solid lead foster type slugs. I doubt I'll have much trouble due to a mod choke. Confined spread will knock the air out of them and make a perp feel it a lil more. But not so confined as to limit damage.
Remember that Foster slugs are nothing more than a soft lead thimble that will swage down on encountering choke constriction. Dixie Tri-Ball Buckshot , on the other hand, are hard cast lead and will out penetrate any foster type slug.
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