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Historical Israel-Arab wars Discuss the strategies and the situation of the historical Israeli-Arab wars from 1948-1982 and it's implications on Israel.

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Old 03-15-2007, 11:09 AM
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as a brit and a european I am right behind the soldiers in iraq and afghanistan and anywhere where there are people who think killing innocent people is justified should be warned that they will not be tolerated and by the way I am not a soldier but a civilian whose safety depends upon men and women willing to put their lives on the line for my freedom
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Yeah Cougar, lets hope that no one tries to invalidate the work already done. I would be lookin' for blood if I had a son killed doing what he thought was the morally right if other's were bitchin' and moanin' about our intention to prevent WWIII. Someone please give me a credible argument about not ousting Saddam as long as you accept that he was re-arming. Although it has been hard and saddening work, the United States and our allies have contributed to the safety of the entire world.
BTW: I have a good friend who regularly does medical mission work in the Kurd regions of IRAQ. He claims that everything against us is indeed propaganda and if it hadn't been for us, the genocide of the Kurds would have continued indefinitely.

Genocyde it seems is an accepted policy, now spreading democracy! Thats truely evil..
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Old 04-22-2007, 08:41 PM
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yes, I no longer fear the Muzzies...we should long for the day that we can wake up at 5 am to pray to Allah. It will be a good thing that we no longer have the free will to make decision for ourselves and have some holy man make them for us. And what man wont love the fact that all women will be our slaves and kept stupid by not allowing them to attend schools. And those Sat afternoon stonings, what fun they shall be.
We should all embrace our new Muzzies masters. A nice trip to the dark ages will be a nice change of pace, dont you all think? Imagine, no pesty computers or cars, no worrying about whats is on the TV tonite. All we have to do is pray five times a day, and surrender our minds to Islam.
What say we all join Islam? I hear they have a good martyer plan..72 Virgins for every innocent person you kill. Of course we cant expect the Imams to do any of the suicide bombing themselves, but they will be behind us, about 5 miles behind us anyways.
What a great religion. It is a religion of Peace, unless you are a non believer, then you can expect to have you head chopped of by a 12 year old boy on TV.
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I know i`m saying it again.. Ive just had a brainstorm that wont leave my mind so i can get to sleep. Ive been cought up in my own world for some time but recent events started me thinking and it seems the dots i am connecting are a plausable path to the success of jihad around the world.
Full on democracy has a flaw that is being exploited by muslims.
In the US here they have rights that are being used agains us.
Around the world in Europe and other smaller democracies the extremest are taking advantage of each countries right to free speech,religion. in a way that these rights were not meant to be used, Yet in most free countries these rights cannot be challenged because of the rights afforded to them under the laws.
We need some serious changes and some real thinking fast before they get too far with this..
Tailand just fell and france isnt far behind.. Am i wrong or is this serious?

Hai!!! I am in your boat. Demographics.... people population, numb3rs. Asia is the place to make our case... at least for Israel.
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I can agree with all of you, the world is an ignorant, ignorant place. However, I am not as pessimistic of most of you. I strongly believe that we will oust radical islam. They are standing on a sinking ship. Rather a depleting oil field. What power, that includes economic power, especially to purchase weapons, will they have when their only commodity is gone? I love it. The muslim leaders have spent SO much time blowing their oil fortune, and putting it in to American and European hands, that once their oil is gone, they will have nothing. Of course, your rebuttle will be, "but they have laid a foundation in westernized society!" Yes, this is true. However, without a bite (weapons) to back up their bark, what choice will they have besides moderating? So while everyone freaks out about islamofacism, I will join them, and fight the fight now to hold it back as much as possible. But when the time comes, and their oil is gone, and they have no social foundations, we will win this fight. I see it no other way. Discuss.

muslims didnt lay the foundation for western society, Christians and Jewish people did that!
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I can agree with all of you, the world is an ignorant, ignorant place. However, I am not as pessimistic of most of you. I strongly believe that we will oust radical islam. They are standing on a sinking ship. Rather a depleting oil field. What power, that includes economic power, especially to purchase weapons, will they have when their only commodity is gone? I love it. The muslim leaders have spent SO much time blowing their oil fortune, and putting it in to American and European hands, that once their oil is gone, they will have nothing. Of course, your rebuttle will be, "but they have laid a foundation in westernized society!" Yes, this is true. However, without a bite (weapons) to back up their bark, what choice will they have besides moderating? So while everyone freaks out about islamofacism, I will join them, and fight the fight now to hold it back as much as possible. But when the time comes, and their oil is gone, and they have no social foundations, we will win this fight. I see it no other way. Discuss.
Thats why Ahmedijan is tryng to get nuclear weapons to get the political leverage and blackmail the west to pay them a tribute.... I mean provide them with humanitarian aid. IF they not intent to use it. and arab- muslims don't laided the fundation of western civilisation they translated a few greek manuscripts and stoled the work of Perians and Hindus. And in conclusion I'm woried although not afraid there will be better days although first the situation will propably must go from bad to worst.
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Thats why Ahmedijan is tryng to get nuclear weapons to get the political leverage and blackmail the west to pay them a tribute.... I mean provide them with humanitarian aid. IF they not intent to use it. and arab- muslims don't laided the fundation of western civilisation they translated a few greek manuscripts and stoled the work of Perians and Hindus. And in conclusion I'm woried although not afraid there will be better days although first the situation will propably must go from bad to worst.
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I Think, we must Give repect for Karl Martel. He with France Army Defeat Umar (muslim) From Spain in Tolouse
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Praise be to God! I have never seen so many smart people who actually use the human brain in a single forum before!

Anyway, on the subject, a nation almost felt like collapsing to its knees under the Muslim faith in the same way we are describing.

Denmark

Just to copy-paste a very interesting read I got:
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In 1978-9 I was living and studying in Denmark. But in 1978 - even in
Copenhagen, one didn't see Muslim immigrants.

The Danish population embraced visitors, celebrated the exotic, went out of its way to protect each of its citizens. It was proud of its new brand of socialist liberalism one in development since the conservatives had lost
power in 1929 - a system where no worker had to struggle to survive, where
one ultimately could count upon the state as in, perhaps, no other western
nation at the time.*

*The rest of Europe saw the Scandinavians as free-thinking, progressive and
infinitely generous in their welfare policies. Denmark boasted low crime
rates, devotion to the environment, a superior educational system and a
history of humanitarianism.*

*Denmark was also most generous in its immigration policies - it offered the
best welcome in Europe to the new immigrant: generous welfare payments from
first arrival plus additional perks in transportation, housing and
education. It was determined to set a world example for inclusiveness and
multiculturalism.

How could it have predicted that one day in 2005 a series of political
cartoons in a newspaper would spark violence that would leave dozens dead in
the streets -all because its commitment to multiculturalism would come back
to bite?*

*By the 1990's the growing urban Muslim population was obvious - and its
unwillingness to integrate into Danish society was obvious. Years of
immigrants had settled into Muslim-exclusive enclaves. As the Muslim
leadership became more vocal about what they considered the decadence of
Denmark's liberal way of life, the Danes - once so welcoming - began to feel
slighted. Many Danes had begun to see Islam as incompatible with their
long-standing values: belief in personal liberty and free speech, in
equality for women, in tolerance for other ethnic groups, and a deep pride
in Danish heritage and history.

An article by Daniel Pipes and Lars Hedegaard, in which they forecasted
accurately that the growing immigrant problem inDenmark would explode. In
the article they reported:*

*'Muslim immigrants.constitute 5 percent of the population but consume
upwards of 40 percent of the welfare spending.' 'Muslims are only 4 percent
of Denmark's 5.4 million people but make up a majority of the country's
convicted rapists, an especially combustible issue given that practically
all the female victims are non-Muslim. Similar, if lesser, disproportions
are found in other crimes.'*

*'Over time, as Muslim immigrants increase in numbers, they wish less to mix
with the indigenous population. A recent survey finds that only 5 percent of
young Muslim immigrants would readily marry a Dane.' 'Forced marriages -
promising a newborn daughter in Denmark to a male cousin in the home
country, then compelling her to marry him, sometimes on pain of death - are
one problem'*

*'Muslim leaders openly declare their goal of introducing Islamic law once
Denmark's Muslim population grows large enough - a not-that-remote prospect.
If present trends persist, one sociologist estimates, every third inhabitant
of Denmark in 40 years will be Muslim.'*

*It is easy to understand why a growing number of Danes would feel that
Muslim immigrants show little respect for Danish values and laws. An example
is the phenomenon common to other European countries and Canada .: some
Muslims in Denmark who opted to leave the Muslim faith have been murdered in
the name of Islam, while others hide in fear for their lives. Jews are also
threatened and harassed openly by Muslim leaders in Denmark, a country where
once Christian citizens worked to smuggle out nearly all of their 7,000 Jews
by night to Sweden - before the Nazis could invade. I think of my Danish
friend Elsa - who as a teenager had dreaded crossing the street to the
bakery every morning under the eyes of occupying Nazi soldiers - and I
wonder what she would say today.*

*In 2001, Denmark elected the most conservative government in some 70 years
- one that had some decidedly non-generous ideas about liberal unfettered
immigration. Today Denmark has the strictest immigration policies in Europe.
( Its effort to protect itself has been met with accusations of 'racism' by
liberal media across Europe - even as other governments struggle to right
the social problems wrought by years of too-lax immigration.)*

*If you wish to become Danish, you must attend three years of language
classes. You must pass a test on Denmark's history, culture, and a Danish
language test. You must live in Denmark for 7 years before applying for
citizenship. You must demonstrate an intent to work, and have a job waiting.
If you wish to bring a spouse into Denmark, you must both be over 24 years
of age, and you won't find it so easy anymore to move your friends and
family to Denmark with you.*

*You will not be allowed to build a mosque in Copenhagen. Although your
children have a choice of some 30 Arabic culture and language schools in
Denmark, they will be strongly encouraged to assimilate to Danish society in
ways that past immigrants weren't.*

*In 2006, the Danish minister for employment, Claus Hjort Frederiksen, spoke
publicly of the burden of Muslim immigrants on the Danish welfare system,
and it was horrifying: the government's welfare committee had calculated
that if immigration from Third World countries were blocked, 75 percent of
the cuts needed to sustain the huge welfare system in coming decades would
be unnecessary. In other words, the welfare system as it existed was being
exploited by immigrants to the point of eventually bankrupting the
government. 'We are simply forced to adopt a new policy on immigration. The
calculations of the welfare committee are terrifying and show how
unsuccessful the integration of immigrants has been up to now,' he said..*

*A large thorn in the side of Denmark's imams is the Minister of Immigration
and Integration, Rikke Hvilshoj. She makes no bones about the new policy
toward immigration, 'The number of foreigners coming to the country makes a
difference,' Hvilshøj says, 'There is an inverse correlation between how
many come here and how well we can receive the foreigners that come.' And on
Muslim immigrants needing to demonstrate a willingness to blend in, 'In my
view, Denmark should be a country with room for different cultures and
religions. Some values, however, are more important than others. We refuse
to question democracy, equal rights, and freedom of speech.'*

*Hvilshoj has paid a price for her show of backbone. Perhaps to test her
resolve, the leading radical imam in Denmark, Ahmed Abdel Rahman Abu Laban,
demanded that the government pay blood money to the family of a Muslim who
was murdered in a suburb of Copenhagen, stating that the family's thirst for
revenge could be thwarted for money. When Hvilshoj dismissed his demand, he
argued that in Muslim culture the payment of retribution money was common,
to which Hvilshoj replied that what is done in a Muslim country is not
necessarily what is done in Denmark. The Muslim reply came soon after: her
house was torched while she, her husband and children slept. All managed to
escape unharmed, but she and her family were moved to a secret location and
she and other ministers were assigned bodyguards for the first time - in a
country where such murderous violence was once so scarce.*

*Her government has slid to the right, and her borders have tightened. Many
believe that what happens in the next decade will determine whether Denmark
survives as a bastion of good living, humane thinking and social
responsibility, or whether it becomes a nation at civil war with supporters
of Sharia law.*

*And meanwhile, Canadians clamor for stricter immigration policies, and
demand an end to state welfare programs that allow many immigrants to live
on the public dole. As we in Canada look at the enclaves of Muslims amongst
us, and see those who enter our shores too easily, dare live on our
taxes,yet refuse to embrace our culture, respect our traditions, participate
inour legal system, obey our laws, speak our language, appreciate our
history. . we would do well to look to Denmark, and say a prayer for her
future and for our own..*
There's your answer to the question what could happen, and what could be done.
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The saddest part is there was no more courageous a country than Denmark during WWII. They refused to allow the Nazi occupiers to decimate the Danish Jewish population by hiding Jews and also smuggling them out to other countries (particularly Sweden) when feasible.
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I'm not worried.Let them bring it on.The muslims know what happens every time they engage Americans or Isrealis in firefight.They can't hit the ground with their keffaya.That's why they resort to suicide bombers and ied's.Every muslim in America couldn't take West Virginia,let alone Texas.I don't know what the statistics are for WV. or TX. but last I heard Pennsylvania has a MILLION hunters with rifles in the woods on the first day of deer season.The Constitution is the law of the land,and even the leftist's would be forced to stand against sharia on the grounds of the seperation of church and state that they defend so rabidly.Since the muslims have no compunction against killing leftist infidels,eventually even the pinko's in the U.S. would be forced to realize that they too fall under the rule of self preservation.With some luck,maybe enlightened Eurabia will be the first to try sharia and give the U.S. a wake up call.As for Isreal,they simultaneously kicked the ass of every one of their neighboring countries.I have no doubt that together,Isreal and the U.S. can tear ass all the way to China if it becomes necessary.
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Out-Standing, Brian Venham! Out-F___ing Standing!!!
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MY take on this I have French and Italian relatives in home countries and this is the facts muslims are taking infedel social money and pumping out babies at our expense fully 30% of state welfare in france and italy. Slowly and sublimely building a majority politically. One relative told dad his grandson is in a class at school with 40 kids 25 of which are arabic/east indian imagrey,5th collum stuff!
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Not to worry majorchuck. Worry is like riding a rocking horse and that won't get you very far. I've worn out several. We can ride the horse or we can get involved, maybe politically like my family is. We may not get the person in office that we want but at least we are trying.

I'm a newby like you mc and was sick tired of the same old play book stuff on the forum at my home town. I left a forum that I'd been on for ten years or so and some how landed here, Thank G-d. For my money this is the best site I've ever seen for whatever information you need

Get yourself informed on whats going on. All the information one could need and then some is right here at this site. If I may, Paparock's posts are loaded with information and theres plenty of others on here also blowing the horn, loudly.....

Prepare and plan for any eventuallity that may be coming yours and our way. If you are a family man or if not, still try to bring your friends up to speed in whats happening around us.

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Hey, I'll say it. I'm worried.

Not for myself--nothing really happens here in Minnesota and the Dakotas (well, other than blizzards and tornados).

But the US is approaching insolvency, we are still engaged in two wars, the Gulf of Mexico is one big oil slick, the Koreas are teetering towards war, Hezbollah is amassing an enormous stockpile of rockets, Iran is on the verge of a nuclear weapon, and we have a president whose main concern is beating up our allies and appeasing our enemies.

Yeah, I'm concerned.
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It's important to notice that muslim population has religion as priority than the nation,so they are all "brothers and sisters"...but this is not a threat..not at least in Asia,because when they will stop fighting...i mean we have shia,the sunni,akhbari...and many other's..at first they are killing themselves in asia,in afghan,pakistan and Iran it's wort pointing that they are listening the elders,.

Let's take afghan for example,we have more than 30 tribes they are fighting...and fighting...so for the pashtun in afghan they say that they are peace full only in war..

moreover India and china....i don't believe to have any problem's with Islam,the same is for Russia.

EU and U.S are now under threat...they don't need weapons,somebody say's:hey muslim's don't have weapon's well see now afghan..with 40 year old weapon's NATO is Loosing from taliban,moreover they(afghan government) put even some taliban law in order not make them more angry..

What they need and have is Growing POPULATION in the west..maybe more in EU,so by the vahabist sponsored mostly by KSA(U.S.A still is "blind") they will get fear as a positive factor for them,thus billions are now transfered in EU,in Bosnia and Kosovo for building islam temple's and very bad literature..i mean very bad-even goebbels is just a doll for that propaganda(using video's from Iraq,Afghan and Israel they are brainwashing the young uneducated children that a Crusade is started-so the video's are mostly with collateral damage and is making the lobotomy complete...so here are the new fighters) and if we see at long therm-they don't want war-they are doing ***IMILATION..they are doing it now and they will continue with that until KSA will fall as a prime finance supporter thus promoting the Turkish model and adopting it for Iraq.

They say fish smell's from the head-well...cut it.

Spaceman..it's really bad what happen in Gulf of mexico...damn entire food chain will collapse..bad in long term..very bad

About Korea..screw them..their test has shown something-not more than 5 kt nuclear bomb yield i would say they are powerless ...let's consider maybe 10 bomb's...so if they wanna play with fire which they can't control-they will burn.(if you are asking me i think it's time for a lesson for Korea and Iran..lesson..MESSAGE to the world that nobody can do what is forbidden)

But Obama...yes is a reason to be concerned.

I think Obama is not thinking at all...have somebody tested his mental ability
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