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Arrow When Does a Religion Become an Ideology?

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When Does a Religion Become an Ideology?
Is it significant that, in Islam, the pillars of faith are rituals rather than moral values?
by Jamie Glazov


In this special edition of Frontpage Symposium, we have invited two distinguished guests to discuss the question: When does a religion become an ideology? Our guests today are:

Tawfik Hamid, an Islamic thinker and reformer who is the author of Inside Jihad: Understanding and Confronting Radical Islam. A one-time Islamic extremist from Egypt, he was a member of Jemaah Islamiya, a terrorist Islamic organization, with Dr. Ayman Al-Zawahiri, who later became the second in command of al-Qaeda. He is currently a senior fellow and chairman of the study of Islamic radicalism at the Potomac Institute for Policy Studies.

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David Satter, a senior fellow of the Hudson Institute and a visiting scholar at the Johns Hopkins University Nitze School of Advanced International Studies (SAIS). He was Moscow correspondent of the Financial Times of London from 1976 to 1982, during the height of the Soviet totalitarian period and he is the author of Age of Delirium: the Decline and Fall of the Soviet Union, which is being made into a documentary film. His most recent work is Darkness at Dawn: The Rise of the Russian Criminal State.

FP: Tawfik Hamid and David Satter, welcome to Frontpage Symposium.
Mr. Hamid, let us begin with you. Make an introductory statement for us to get our discussion started: When does a religion become an ideology?

Hamid: A religion becomes an ideology when the followers of this religion cannot tolerate the existence of those who have different views or beliefs, and when they understand their religious text literally and refuse to accept any way of understanding the religion other than their own way of understanding.

FP: Thank you.

Dr. Satter how would you now build on Mr. Hamid’s statement?


Satter: I think another way of putting it is that a religion becomes an ideology when man-made dogma is treated as infallible truth.
Although there are adherents of all three major monotheistic faiths who believe that every word of the sacred texts is to be taken literally, for the post-Enlightenment rationalist mind, there is a distinction between transcendent moral truths, exemplified in the case of Judaism and Christianity in the Golden Rule and the Ten Commandments and the dogmatic contents of the religions expressed in their historical accounts and ritual requirements.

This distinction is important to bear in mind because transcendent moral truths are never the content of an ideology. An ideology contains an assertion about society that is treated as ultimate truth and applied indiscriminately to explain all aspects of political reality. Since transcendent moral truths owe their character to the fact that they are “over and above” society, they cannot contribute to the content of an ideology. In fact, the effect of an ideology is always to destroy true moral transcendence.

The ritual requirements or dogmatic assertions about history of a religion, however, are perfectly suitable for the construction of an ideology. The obligation in Islam to wage jihad, properly interpreted, can be made the basis of an ideology which treats waging war on unbelievers as the highest obligation of a Moslem and evaluates all actions in terms of the extent to which they support this sacred obligation. Other religions too have aspects that could become the material of an ideology. One example is the doctrine of the Jews as the “Chosen People.” Although this doctrine has never been used to justify the oppression of others, it could be.
A religion becomes an ideology when its man-made elements become an idée fixe and are seized upon as an idea that can be imposed on all political and social institutions in the interests of power. The temptation was explained best in Dostoevsky’s tale of the Grand Inquisitor where the inquisitor explains to Jesus the essence of an ideology’s appeal:

Instead of the strict ancient law, man had in future to decide for himself with a free heart what is good and what is evil, having only your image before him for guidance. But did it never occur to you that he would at last reject and call in question even your image and your truth, if he were weighed down by as fearful a burden as freedom of choice.
Laying down that burden may be easiest of all if the mental prison thereby created is constructed with the materials of supposedly sacred religious teachings.

Hamid: In general, I agree with many of the above views. I would like to add that, based on David’s analysis, I see that having an ideology is not by itself the problem. For example, the ideology of the chosen people — as he mentioned — was not used to oppress others. It is the part of ideology that is used to oppress others, such as ‘violent Jihad’ in Islam that is actually causing the problem.

A good distinction that David made was the distinction between true moral transcendence and ideology. It is important to mention that one of the main problems in traditional Islam is that the pillars of the religion [to say Non G-d other than Allah and Mohamed is the prophet of Allah, the 5 prayers, the obligatory tax (Zakkat), the fasting of Ramadan and the pilgrimage (Haj)] are rituals rather than moral values. In other words, based on the traditional views within Islam, Bin Laden can be a good Muslim because he follows the 5 pillars of Islam. On the contrary, if the pillars of Islam include ‘you shall not commit murder’ or other moral values, Muslims would not have seen people like Bin Laden and the terrorists as real Muslims. The ideology and the religious dogma of the 5 pillars made many Muslims unable to use the transcendent moral truth to judge people like Bin Laden.

Regarding the view that ‘man had in future to decide for himself with a free heart what is good and what is evil,’ I agree with this but I will add that the inspired moral values from religion such as ‘you shall not commit murder and ‘you shall not steal’ should remain as the back bone for future moral values. We may change some practical applications for these values but the pillars for such values will remain — at least in the view of many — as inspired values via the creator (i.e. not man-made).

Regarding the statement that “Laying down that burden may be easiest of all if the mental prison thereby created is constructed with the materials of supposedly sacred religious teachings.” I have seen the practical application for this in our Islamic society when many in the Muslim world adopt Islam as an ideology as a reaction to the moral relativism concepts that flourished in the Muslim world in the 1950s and 60s partially due to the work of liberal movements. The Islamic societies could not tolerate the lack of clear borders or ‘prison’ for their mind and it was much easier for many in these societies to follow an ‘ideology’ with clear borders rather than having the burden of freedom of choice.


Satter: Muslims, of course, are not the only ones who seek “clear borders.” Very few people have the confidence to identify their fundamental moral values and apply them to the myriad of complicated situations with which life confronts us. Even the most educated people fall back on mental borders that are the product of past habit and unchallenged assumptions. The problem becomes much greater when the mental borders are ubiquitous and the product of a false universal theory – as in Nazism or communism – or the dogmatic contents of a religion as in the case of radical Islam.

We are also confronted with the problem of group dynamics. Ethical judgment is the property of an individual. Dogmatic rules guide the behavior of a group. They eliminate differences and mobilize people for common action. So to the difficulty of thinking for oneself is added in an ideological situation the emotional trauma of confronting the group. Under the circumstances, it is small wonder that fanaticism in power has such terrible force. It operates on the difficulty that people have, when challenged, of defending what is truly human in each of them, their ultimate moral sense.

So what can reinforce the moral sense of the individual in the face of religious or secular fanaticism? If I understand him correctly, Tawfik provides the answer with his reference to the five pillars of Islam, none of which deal with ethical values. I think we need to be very clear in distinguishing between dogma and genuinely transcendent values. In the case of Nazism and communism, the task was easier because there were no transcendent values. Communism prided itself on its rejection of metaphysics. But in the case of radical Islam, the fanatics can draw on an authoritative religious tradition. Every word of the Koran is treated as divine truth and the authoritative interpretation of the Koran is or, at least, can be seen as being implicitly terroristic.

It seems to me that, under these circumstances, we must insist on our ability to define terms. To be truly religious, values must be transcendent. They cannot be derived from a political objective, for example, creating a classless society or a restored Caliphate. They can’t be based on the hatred of outsiders whether capitalists or infidels because the tensions that these hatreds reflect owe their origin to society which higher values necessarily transcend. Where the measure of right or wrong is the interests of a group, whether the proletariat, Aryans or the ummah, we are dealing with man made dogma regardless of any pretended religious justification. Its absolutization creates an ideology not a religion and it should be treated as an ideology and not granted the legitimacy of a religion with which it actually shares nothing. In the case of Islam, this does not mean an attack on Islamic practices as such but only their use in the service of terror under which circumstances, the issue of transcendence becomes relevant. To search for meaning is only human but it can lead to barbaric conclusions if it proceeds without ethical guidance. In a nuclear world, we need to defend the distinction between higher values and dogma as a matter of fundamental self defense.

Hamid: I agree with the points that David mentioned and would like to add more applied points that relate to Radical Islam.

David raised the point of “Difficulty to think for oneself”. This is exactly what happened to me and to many members in the Radical organizations. We felt that we are like sheep that just need to follow the leader.
Individual thinking was lost especially when the radical leaders discouraged us from ‘thinking’.

David considered the ummah concept as “a man made dogma regardless of any pretended religious justification”. This could be true however; Muslims see the ummah concept as a religious based one. It is vital to understand how Muslims see such a concept in order to be able to approach the problem and deal with it correctly. In this regard, it is also important to emphasize that Communism and Nazism were seen by most of their followers as manmade ideology. In Islam, the situation is completely different as most Muslims see the ideological component as a religious revelation from Allah. In the former situation (i.e. manmade ideology) it is much easier to change the ideology as you can prove it wrong. When the ideology, as in case of Islam, is processed at the subconscious and emotional levels of the brain (as a religion) rather than the high cortical levels (as the case of communism and Nazism) it is much more difficult to change it.

I completely agree with David about the need to have a clear distinction between religion and Ideology. Islam that only works inside a mosque as a form of individual worship can be considered a religion. However, Islam that is used as a political power and a controlling system for the society must be treated as an Ideology. The West need to be clear about this issue, as giving the Ideological part of Islam (that promotes violence and control of others) the protection and privileges that are given to a religion can be catastrophic. This ideological part of Islam has to be fought as the case with fighting communism and Nazism. If we failed to make such a separation between Islam as personal type of worship and Islam (or its interpretations) as a political and driving force to dominate others we will not be able to control radical Islamic ideology in the future. In fact we may be actually giving support to the radical ideology if we gave it the advantages of a religion. Allowing the ideological part of Islam to flourish under the banner of religious freedom weakens the spiritual part of the religion itself and makes things more complicated.

Satter: Politics dominates our lives and there is always a temptation to make a religion out of politics. If a political objective has divine significance, it is worth dying for and, of course, worth killing for. Those obsessed with a political mission are fearless and resourceful. Relieved of the need to exercise individual moral judgment, they become ruthless spies, talented strategists and remorseless killers. This is why it is so important to show a political ideology in all its man made artificiality. Only in this way can an ideological movement be discredited. One hopes that it will be harder to organize mass crimes on behalf of a system that has been shown to be not divinely inspired but man made. In any case, the effort offers some hope for the future....
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UK Taxpayers to Fund Pointing Muslim Graves to Mecca
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http://undhimmi.com/2010/06/04/briti...oint-to-mecca/


UK Local Authority Spends £150,000 to Ensure Muslim Graves Point to Mecca


Dhimmi British Council payes six figures to point muslim corpses toward a city you and I aren't even allowed to enter


... which, by the way, is a place from which non-Muslims are banned. More Multikulti idiocy:

High Wycombe Cemetery in Buckinghamshire currently has a separate Muslim burial section but this is due to run out of space in 2012.
Muslim graves are required to face North East, so that Mecca, the birth place of the Prophet Muhammad in the Sirat Mountains of Saudi Arabia, is on their right to the South East.

While graves could be placed in the existing plot with Christian graves, the different orientation would mean encroaching on areas currently maintained as lawn sections.

A report by High Wycombe District Council also expressed fears that mixing Muslim and Christian graves could lead to a backlash in public opinion. The council put in a request for land at the Church of England burial ground at Priory Road, High Wycombe to be deconsecrated for Muslim use but this was refused.

The council have now settled on extending High Wycombe cemetery terracing to form new burial areas, walls, paths and steps for access at a cost of £150,000.


According to the Equalities Impact Assessment carried out, an extension would provide 15 years worth of Muslim burials. One local resident, who did not wish to be named, said that enough money had been spent catering to the needs of the Muslim community.

He said: ”Yet again many thousands of pounds being spent pandering to the local Muslim community.

”Just like when they fenced off all of the Muslim graves in the local cemetery to protect them from vandalism yet left all of the other graves from other racial/religious groups left wide open to vandalism.”

The council has a statutory duty as the Burial Authority to provide cemetary space for people of all faiths.

The report stated that an extension would ”meet the needs of the Muslim community with relation to grave design and orientation so that graves are facing towards Mecca”. It added: ”If an extension is not provided, Muslim burials will be integrated with other non Christian burials, leading to problems relating to the different orientation of burials and with allowing graves to be domed in areas that are maintained as lawn sections.


”This latter issue would lead to increased costs for mowing and maintenance, not allow for best usage of space and is likely to lead to negative public reaction.”

The plan was backed by the council’s High Wycombe Town Committee and work will begin in October or November if approved by the council’s cabinet. Councillor Mahboob Hussain said: ”We need another site to be ready for the future. I fully support the proposals.”

Muslims must try to complete funeral rites and burials within 24 hours of a death.

Diocesan Registrar, the Rev Canon John Rees said: ”All parishioners, that is everyone who is a resident in a parish, whether they are regular attenders at the church, on its electoral roll or not, have a right to be buried in its churchyard unless the churchyard is full.


”Of course, in this case the control of the cemetery rests with the council, not with the church.”

Bishop of Buckingham, the Rt Rev Alan Wilson, said: ”People of all faiths and none are regularly buried in Church of England churchyards and other consecrated ground all over the country. ”We are not exclusive about it and are delighted to serve the community in this way.”


Even when Britain apparently has no money left, the loony multiculturalist petty local politicians can still find a six figure sum to pander to adherents of the Religion of Peace™. If the Muslim community was so concerned about this why:

a) Had the matter not arisen or acted upon previously?

b) No thought been given to the Muslims funding this themselves, leaving taxpayers’ money to be allocated to higher priority uses, i.e. for living people?

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German Study Shows Religious Muslims More Prone to Violence

A study that shows boys growing up in religious Muslim families are more likely to be violent seems set to reignite the debate over religion and integration, a media report said on Sunday.

The study, which involved intensive questioning of 45,000 teenagers from 61 towns and regions across the country, was conducted by Christian Pfeiffer of the criminal research institute of Lower Saxony.

Pfeiffer said he was dismayed by the results, and told the Süddeutsche Zeitung he was a strong critic of political campaigns which painted foreigners as criminals – such as those led by Roland Koch and Thilo Sarrazin.

Pfeiffer’s work took into account the level of education and standard of living in the families of the children – aged between 14 and 16 – who were questioned. He also asked them how religious they considered themselves, and how integrated they felt in Germany.

Pfeiffer said that even when other social factors were taken into account, there remained a significant correlation between religiosity and readiness to use violence. There were some positive correlations too he said, noting that young religious Muslims were much less likely than their non-Muslim counterparts to drink alcohol – or to steal from shops.

The increased likelihood to use violence was restricted to Muslim boys Pfeiffer said – Muslim girls were just as likely to be violent as non-Muslim girls.

This led him to conclude that there was not a direct link between Islamic belief and violence – but an indirect one. He pointed to Christian teachings which justified domestic violence and male dominance of society for a long time.

His researchers asked the teenagers a range of questions about their ideas of manliness, for example whether they thought a man was justified in hitting his wife if she had been unfaithful. They also asked about what media and computer game violence they were exposed to, as well as whether their friends were involved in crime or violence.

The results showed that Muslim boys from immigrant families were more than twice as likely to agree with macho statements than boys from Christian immigrant families. The rate was highest among those considered as very religious, Pfeiffer said. They were also more likely to be using violent computer games and have criminal friends.

Added to that, the more religious Muslim boys felt the least integrated into German society, with only 14.5 percent of the very religious Turkish boys (the largest group of Muslims in the study) saying they felt German, although 88.5 percent had been born here.

Pfeiffer said he thought the responsibility for the macho culture lay with Imams in Germany, who he said usually come from abroad and often cannot speak German or have much understanding of the culture....

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UK: Prisoners convert to Islam for jail perks
With Muslims established as a privileged class and non-Muslims converting to Islam simply to avoid the misery of second-class status, British prisoners already sound like Sharia entities. "Prisoners convert to Islam for jail perks," by Richard Ford in The Times, June 8:
Inmates are converting to Islam in order to gain perks and the protection of powerful Muslim gangs, the Chief Inspector of Prisons warns today.
Dame Anne Owers says that some convicted criminals are taking up the religion in jail to receive benefits only available to practising Muslims.

The number of Muslim prisoners has risen dramatically since the mid-1990s -- from 2,513 in 1994, or 5 per cent of the population, to 9,795 in 2008, or 11 per cent. Staff at top-security prisons and youth jails have raised concerns about the intimidation of non-Muslims and possible forced conversions.

Dame Anne's report, Muslim Prisoners' Experiences, published today, says that, although several high-profile terrorists have been jailed recently, fewer than 1 in 100 Muslim inmates have been convicted of terrorism.

She says that prison staff are suspicious about those practising or converting to the faith and warns that treating Muslim inmates as potential or actual extremists risks radicalising them. The report says: "Many Muslim prisoners stressed the positive and rehabilitative role that Islam played in their lives, and the calm that religious observance could induce in a stressed prison environment. This was in marked contrast to the suspicion that religious observance, and particularly conversion or reversion, tended to produce among staff."

All prisons offer a halal menu, which some inmates see as better than the usual choices. Muslims are excused from work and education while attending Friday prayers. Some converts, who are known as "convenience Muslims", admitted that they had changed faith because they got more time out of the cells to go to Friday prayers. One quoted in the report said: "Food good too, initially this is what converted me."...
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Sharia Enforcement Leads to Brawl in Finland

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Linnanmäki Disturbance Highlights Tensions between Somalis and Kurds in Finland
Representatives of two immigrant minorities believed to have been involved in Sunday’s group fight at Linnanmäki have sharply condemned the melee. The incident has highlighted tensions that sometimes emerge between Somalis and Kurds in Finland. Some Somalis have taken issue with the dress and habits of Kurds, who are often fairly relaxed in their interpretation of Islam.

Dozens of young people with immigrant backgrounds took part in Sunday’s melee – mainly Somalis and Kurds. Kurds have said that there have been tensions between the groups before, because some of the Somalis, many of whom are devout Muslims, have been known to chide Kurds for their more worldly dress and behaviour.

A woman, interviewed by the late-edition newspaper Ilta-Sanomat, said that one of Sunday’s fights started with an argument over the use of head scarves. According to the 25-year-old woman, the Somalis denounced Kurdish women for not wearing scarves.

Kurds interviewed by YLE were not surprised to hear about tensions with the Somalis. They say that some Somalis have previously taken issue with the habits of secularised Muslims. One Kurdish woman spoke of an incident in which a Somali took issue with listening to music at a Finnish language course.

“When I was on a Finnish language course, we had the same problem. One Somali prevented us from listening to music, saying that it is banned under Islamic law.”

The woman did not want her name mentioned, because she did not want to hurt the feelings of her Somali colleagues.

Friendship Society Condemns Violence
Sabah Abbas Ali, the chair of the Finnish-Kurdish Friendship Society, says that there have been similar cases before.
“Unfortunately, this is not unique. What happened at Linnanmäki has happened before.”

Ali mentions a case at a public swimming pool in Vuosaari, where a bikini worn by a Kurdish woman sparked a conflict. Ali is occasionally told of cases in which a devout Muslim will take issue with the dress or activities of a worldlier Kurd.

“Both sides have behaved badly,” Ali said, commenting on Sunday’s news....
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Gaddafi: "We await the day when Turkey joins the European Union to serve as a Trojan horse"



He said it. "Gaddafi: God did not create a Europe for Europeans only," from Firas Press (Google translation), June 8:
Tripoli - Firas Press: urged the Libyan leader Colonel Muammar Gaddafi of Muslims in the European Union to unite and join the People's Leadership of the Islamic World, which he chaired, to counter what he considered a threat to the Muslims there, pointing out that God - the Almighty - created the earth for all people and not for sex particular, in reference to the Europeans.

Gaddafi said at the meeting, on Thursday evening, in the Libyan capital Tripoli, the heads of delegations of leaders of the Social Popular Islamic Forum Muammar friendship and networking in the Balkans, and the Association of Gaddafi to young people of Bosnia and Herzegovina, who were visiting Libya, «You are a rarity in Europe, you get the large number of willing God in the day, you will have the upper hand and higher levels, you will be imams and Oarthyn of the European continent ».

He added: «If Turkey joined the European Union, and the presence of both states the Balkans in the European Union and Albania in the European Union, the meaning of this is that the European continent is no longer a crusade or a Christian as it was, but Islam has become a strong partner in the European continent to the ground and human beings and actually».

«We await the day when Turkey joins the European Union to serve as a Trojan horse, which tells the history».

And reduced-Qadhafi, who holds the rotating presidency of the Arab summit, of the importance of statistics that declare the number of Muslims in Europe, said it was not true, because it is tendentious statistics show that Muslims are a minority. However, he added: «Muslims more than the number declared by the official statistics».

He added, saying: «Fortunately, the Muslims started to multiply and multiply more than the rest of the other religions, maybe this is a sign of God. Thus the will of God, made Muslims multiply times higher than other breeds. Perhaps this is proof that God wants to be more Muslims than anyone else in the end »....

He said: «We must unite in Europe, and to be an Islamic state and one under the banner of the World Islamic People's Leadership», pointing out that God created the earth for all people....




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UK: Muslim leader fakes hate crime against himself

http://www.jihadwatch.org/2010/06/uk...t-himself.html


We have seen the faking of hate crimes in the U.S. as well: the Hamas-linked Council on American-Islamic Relations (CAIR) has claimed that "anti-Muslim hate crimes" have risen sharply in the U.S. since 9/11. In fact, the rate of such crimes has actually dropped. CAIR knows well that victimhood is big business: insofar as they can claim protected victim status for Muslims in the U.S., they can deflect unwanted scrutiny and any critical examination of how jihadists use Islamic texts and teachings to justify violence and supremacism.

That's most likely why CAIR and others have not hesitated to stoop even to fabricating "hate crimes." They want and need hate crimes against Muslims, because they can use them for political points and as weapons to intimidate people into remaining silent about the jihad threat.

And so it is with Noor Ramjanally. He had hoped to use the undeniably noxious BNP as a scapegoat to help him advance his claim to privileged victim status. No dice...this time.

"Essex Muslim leader in court over kidnap claim," from the BBC, June 9:
A Muslim community leader claimed he was abducted by members of the British National Party, a court has heard. Noor Ramjanally, 36, of Loughton, Essex, has denied attempting to pervert the course of justice by falsely telling police he had been abducted.

Chelmsford Crown Court heard Mr Ramjanally had complained of having accelerant poured through his letterbox prior to being "kidnapped".

The court heard the local council spent £1,300 improving security at his home.

A new door was fitted to his council flat and police installed a hidden camera, a local authority official told the court.

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But prosecutor Matthew Gowan said camera footage revealed no sign of the "two burly men" Mr Ramjanally claimed had snatched him at knife point last August....
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Prince Charles urges environmentalists to follow Islamic spiritual principles



Of course! This is why Islamic countries are such green showcases! Royal Dhimmitude Update: "'Follow the Islamic way to save the world,' Prince Charles urges environmentalists," by Rebecca English for the Daily Mail, June 9 (thanks to Tziona):
Prince Charles yesterday urged the world to follow Islamic 'spiritual principles' in order to save the environment.
In a high-profile speech, the heir to the throne argued that man's destruction of the world was contrary to the scriptures of all religions - but particularly that of the Islamic faith.

He said the current 'division' between Man and Nature had been caused not just by industrialisation, technological development and the relentless pursuit of economic growth, but also by our attitude to our relationship with Nature - which goes against the grain of 'sacred traditions'.

Charles, who is a practising Christian, spoke in depth about his own study of the Qu'ran [sic] which, he said, tells its followers that there is 'no separation between Man and Nature' and says we must always live within Nature's mean and limits
'From what I know of the Qu'ran [sic], again and again it describes the natural world as the handiwork of a unitary benevolent power,' he said.

'It very explicitly describes Nature as possessing an "intelligibility" and that there is no separation between Man and Nature, precisely because there is no separation between the natural world and God.

'It offers a completely integrated view of the Universe where religion and science, mind and matter are all part of one living, conscious whole.

'This suggests to me that Nature is a knowing partner, never a mindless slave to humanity, and we are Her tenants; God's guests for all too short a time.'

The prince was speaking to an audience of scholars at the Oxford Centre for Islamic Studies, which attempts to encourage a better understanding of the culture and civilisation of the religion, of which he is patron....
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Muslims riot in Stockholm: "It is a war zone out here, it is raining stones"



Stoning police. Eurabia Alert: "Fires and rioting in Stockholm suburb," from The Local, June 9:
Rioting was reported in the Stockholm suburb of Rinkeby on Tuesday night as 50-60 youths pelted police with stones and set alight to a building.

"It is a war zone out here, it is raining stones", said one witness who wished to remain anonymous to the Metro daily.
According to another witness a bus trying to enter the deprived area was forced to stop.

"Not a single window on the bus was intact," an eye witness said.

Police were given an indication that something was afoot earlier in the evening as youths gathered on the streets equipping themselves with paving stones.

"They did all they could to attract our attention," said Mats Brännlund at Stockholm police.

But police decided to react first when a building housing a mentor programme for young people in the area, burst into flames.

"We had to help the emergency services to get through," Brännlund said.

In total around 20 police patrols with dogs were present in the area throughout the night as they tried to restore calm. Police vehicles were also subject to stone throwing.

"If you attack the police with stones and set alight to buildings then I would venture to suggest that it can be classified as rioting," he said.

The fire services deployed 21 staff from three fire stations at the location, but none were reported to have been subjected to stone throwing.

A branch of the Nordea bank was attacked at around midnight with the local police station also the target of stone throwing youths. Two men were detained in connection with the police station attack....
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EU logo prominent in PA TV quiz in which "Palestine" replaces Israel
Haifa presented as "Palestinian city"
By Itamar Marcus and Nan Jacques Zilberdik

http://www.palwatch.org/main.aspx?fi=157&doc_id=2394




Palestinian Authority TV displayed the EU logo on the TV screen as background to a quiz question that denied Israel's existence, by presenting the Israeli city Haifa as "a Palestinian coastal city." The question was broadcast daily as a promo for the second season of the weekly quiz show The Stars on PA TV. The first season was sponsored by the EU.

The question posed to the TV viewers was:
"A Palestinian coastal city is:
1. Ramallah
2. Bethlehem
3. Haifa
... Call the number that appears on the screen and win $500."
Note: The Israeli city Haifa is the only coastal city of the three.
[PA TV (Fatah), daily from May 23 to May 28, 2010]

PA TV is under the direct control of PA Chairman Mahmoud Abbas's office.

In November 2009, PA TV introduced a weekly quiz program entitled The Stars. The first season was funded by the European Union and the quiz questions all related to Europe, covering topics such as history, geography, personalities, government, culture, arts, and sports. Each program featured competing representatives from two Palestinian Authority universities or colleges. In January 2010 the competition ended, and the last program showed a prize ceremony with the participation of Minister of Welfare Majda Al-Masri; Minister of Prisoners' Affairs Issa Karake; and director of the MAAN news agency, Nasser A-Lahham.

In May 2010 a new series of the program was announced which is being sponsored by the cell phone company Jawwal. Palestinian Media Watch has been unable to verify whether this season is also sponsored by the EU as the prominent use of the logo indicates.
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"Reformist" Islamic leader: secularism is incompatible with Islam





If you're a Western non-Muslim who points out that a government that does not have an established religion is incompatible with traditional Islamic teaching, establishment dhimmi pseudoscholar John Esposito will call you an "Islamophobe." If you're an internationally renowned Islamic teacher who says the same thing, John Esposito will call you a "reformist."

"Why is secularism incompatible with Islam?," by Yusuf Al-Qaradawi in the Saudi Gazette, June 11:
Secularism can never enjoy a general acceptance in an Islamic society. For Muslim societies, the acceptance of secularism means something totally different. As Islam is a comprehensive system of worship (Ibadah) and legislation (Shari'ah), the acceptance of secularism means abandonment of Shari'ah, a denial of the divine guidance and a rejection of Allah's injunctions. It is indeed a false claim that Shari'ah is not proper to the requirements of the present age. The acceptance of a legislation formulated by humans means a preference of the humans' limited knowledge and experiences to the divine guidance: "Say! Do you know better than Allah?" (Qur'an, 2:140)

For this reason, the call for secularism among Muslims is atheism and a rejection of Islam. Its acceptance as a basis for rule in place of Shari'ah is downright apostasy. The silence of the masses in the Muslim world about this deviation has been a major transgression and a clear-cut instance of disobedience which have produces a sense of guilt, remorse, and inward resentment, all of which have generated discontent, insecurity, and hatred among committed Muslims because such deviation lacks legality.

Secularism is (only) compatible with the Western concept of God which maintains that after God had created the world, He left it to look after itself. In this sense, God's relationship with the world is like that of a watchmaker with a watch: he makes it then leaves it to function without any need for him. This (baseless) concept is inherited from Greek philosophy, especially that of Aristotle who argued that God neither controls nor knows anything about this world.

This concept is totally different from that of Muslims. We Muslims believe that Allah is the sole Creator and Sustainer of the Worlds. One Who "...takes account of every single thing." (Qur'an, 72:28); that He is All-Powerful and All-Knowing; that His Mercy and Bounties encompass everyone and suffice for all. In that capacity, Allah revealed His divine guidance to humanity, made certain things permissible and others prohibited, commanded people observe His injunctions and to judge according to them. If they do not do so, then they commit Kufr, aggression, and transgression.
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"We suggested that they convert to Islam and be saved, or pay the jizya poll tax, or else, we would wage war against them"





Just the other night on Staten Island, a Muslim American Society spokesman insisted that the Qur'an's martial verses applied only to a long-vanished time and place, not to today. These Egyptian Muslim clerics, however, and many others don't seem to have gotten the memo. "Egyptian Clerics Reminisce about the Victories of Early Islam and Lament the Loss of Andalusia," from MEMRI, June 11:
The following excerpts are from an interview with Egyptian cleric Hamdan Badr of the International Union of Muslim Scholars, which aired on Al-Shabab TV on December 8, 2009.

To view this clip on MEMRI TV, visit http://www.memritv.org/clip/en/0/0/0/0/0/0/2472.htm.

Hamdan Badr: "Khaled [Ibn Al-Walid] went to the Byzantine army commander, who looked at him and said: 'Khaled, I have heard that what made you leave your homes was hunger and thirst. Go back with the rest of the Muslims.' You and the viewers had better pay close attention - 'Go back with the rest of the Muslims, and each of you will get food, drink, and clothing, you will get this every year.' Because he was the commander, they wanted to give him a little... "

Interviewer: "He could have finished the job and gottent back... No problem."

Hamdan Badr: "Right?"

Interviewer: "Yes, no problem."

Hamdan Badr: "Am I making myself clear?"

Interviewer: "Yes, our viewers get this."

Hamdan Badr: "What did Khaled say to him? He said: 'You are right, commander!'"

Interviewer: "What honesty."

Hamdan Badr: "Right. 'It was thirst that made us leave our homes. We have heard that Byzantine blood is the tastiest, and we have come to drink it.' Don't take this the wrong way. It doesn't mean that we should... No. We suggested that they convert to Islam and be saved, or pay the jizya poll tax, or else, we would wage war against them. This does not constitute aggression, because we are defending the borders of the Islamic state. We are commanded to enjoin people to worship Allah. We are commanded to enjoin the creatures to worship their Creator, to save whoever wants to be saved from worshipping slaves so that they will worship the Master of Slaves, and bring them from the injustice of the other religions to the justice of Islam, from the narrow straits of this world to the spaciousness of the world to come. That is the mission of every Muslim in this life.

"Khaled said these things, and the man was filled with wrath. Khaled clutched his horse's reins, and rode toward the army of the Muslims, calling out to them at the top of his voice: 'Blow, oh wing of Paradise!'"

Interviewer: "How beautiful."

Hamdan Badr: "What leaders..."

Interviewer: "What a beautiful expression."

Hamdan Badr: "Where are those leaders? I would like... We would like leaders like that, but..."

Interviewer: "They could take a lesson from Khaled..." [...]
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UK Muslim Leader Runs from Justice over Phony Hate Crime



A Muslim community leader who claimed he was abducted by British National Party members has been found guilty of perverting the course of justice.

Noor Ramjanally, 36, of Loughton, Essex, was given a two-year sentence in his absence after failing to attend Chelmsford Crown Court.

Ramjanally had complained of having accelerant poured through his letterbox prior to being "kidnapped" last August.

He was given a two year sentence, half in custody, half on licence.

Ramjanally, now thought to be in his native Mauritius, told police he feared for his life when he was kidnapped by two men in broad daylight from his home in Loughton last August and bundled into the boot of their car.

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He claimed he was driven to Epping Forest where he was threatened and warned to stop holding prayer sessions he had organised in Loughton.
However, the court heard police viewed CCTV footage from secret cameras installed to protect him after his previous claims that he was being targeted by racist opponents.

At the time of his alleged abduction, Ramjanally was seen leaving his home, getting into a taxi and being driven to Homebase. From there he walked on foot alone to Epping Forest.

Jurors heard that more than £10,000 pounds of taxpayers' cash had been spent on investigations and improving security at Ramjanally's home....
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MUSLIMS plan to spit on returning British troops. AGAIN!





From their website: It seems that the Muslim Ummah (nation) have been rendered emotionally insensitive, especially in the west where the Kufr regimes have gathered around as they had gathered in the past, conspiring to destroy and eradicate Islam. (Hopefully) We can see the same crusader alliances re-emerging today under the guise of freedom and democracy claiming to be peace makers, yet these same peace makes seem to not care about the emotions and feelings of the Muslim nation. (That’s right, we don’t give a hoot about any of you. Why don’t you get the hell out of our countries?)

We have all heard as has the whole world about the insults that have been hurled at our beloved Messenger Muhammad (pbuh), the depicting of his honorable self in the worst forms, the desecrating of the Quran and the vilification of our religion (Actually your death cult).

We have been taken for a mockery, our pride and honor can be insulted under the guise of freedom of expression, yet the mere mention of establishing the Shariah in Britain or in any other European country is opposed to with total disgust, it is deemed outrageous and offensive. (It IS offensive) Any sign of it, is reacted to with harshness and followed with stern

actions, we saw how they made laws making it illegal in many European countries to walk on the streets with the niqab (face veil) and anybody that does so is levied with a hefty fine.

What was their excuse? How did they justify and cover up their hatred for Islam? They came out and said that it was a barrier for communication! Is it not ironic that they find no barrier whilst using the phone? Allah (swt) says: And when it is said to them: “Make not mischief on the earth,” they say: “We only Want to make peace! Verily! They are the ones who make mischief, but they perceive not (EMQ 2:11-12).

When are we going to wake up? When are we going to realize that this is nothing but to war between truth and falsehood and turning our backs on it will amount to nothing? How long are going to listen to these so called community leaders and Imams telling us not to speak out, that it is not wise nor is it the right time?

O those that claim faith in Allah and love of his messenger rise up and speak out, on Tuesday 15 June 2010 the “Muslims against crusades” have organized a static counter demonstration against a planned parade by returning crusader soldiers, the council have announced that the parade will take place in Barking which is to mark their Freedom of the Borough.

Without a doubt this is another attempt at making a mockery of Islam and the Muslims, what happened to the sensitivity of the Muslim community? The wounds of Afghanistan and Iraq are still fresh and the blood of the Muslims in Gaza till now is running. This parade is nothing but the rubbing of salt on the wounds of the Muslim Ummah and clearly highlights the double standards of the so called peace makers. (Then go back to your hellhole of a country)H/T Logans Warning
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Robert Gates blames Europe for alienating Turkey. But who is really to blame?
by Robert Ellis





U.S. Defense Secretary Robert Gates recently blamed Europe for alienating Turkey from the West. On a visit to London last Wednesday, he stated, “If there’s anything to the notion that Turkey is moving eastwards, it is in no small part because it was pushed, and it was pushed by some in Europe refusing to give Turkey the kind of organic link to the West that Turkey sought.”

When Turkey was accepted as a European Union candidate at the Helsinki summit in 1999, the Ecevit government subsequently enacted two important constitutional reform packages and a revision to the Civil Code which established the principle of gender equality in the family. When the AKP (Justice and Development Party) came to power in 2002, it was with the promise of further reform, and seven more reform packages were passed.

Despite reservations about implementation, in October 2004 the European Commission found that Turkey had “sufficiently” fulfilled the political criteria for membership and recommended the start of accession talks. However, when these talks began the following year, the AKP government under Recep Tayyip Erdogan lost interest in the European perspective and concentrated on a domestic agenda with the main aim of securing its power base. This included a policy of kadrolaşma in state and local administration, which means filling leading positions with party supporters and fellow believers.

Through “neighborhood pressure,” the government embarked on a process of social engineering to enforce conservative, Islamic standards throughout Turkish society.

High on the AKP government’s agenda was making it possible for graduates of religious high schools (the imam-hatip schools) to enter university on an equal footing with students from state high schools. However, because of secular opposition, these attempts have so far been unsuccessful.

The headscarf – that is, the tightly knotted Islamic headscarf and not the loosely worn village headscarf – is widely regarded as a symbol of political Islam, and Prime Minister Erdogan admitted as much at a meeting of the Alliance of Civilizations Forum in Madrid in 2008. However, the fact that the European Court of Human Rights upheld the ban on the Islamic headscarf at Turkish universities was a setback that Mr. Erdogan was not prepared to accept.

As has been illustrated by Turkey’s vote in the UN Security Council against further sanctions on Iran, Turkey’s “multi-dimensional” foreign policy has been directed more towards cementing its relations with its Middle Eastern neighbors than advancing its cause in Europe. Particularly, after the Turkish government’s endorsement of the alleged aid flotilla and the stand-off with Israel, Turkey’s claim of being “the honest broker of the Middle East” rings hollow. This is all not to mention, of course, the Armenian issue, Turkey’s own Kurdish problem, and the fact that Turkey, for the last 36 years, has occupied a third of what is now an EU member state – Cyprus.

In a television interview in 2004, Libya’s leader, Muammar Gaddafi, let his views be known on Europe letting Turkey into the European Union, stating: ”The Islamic world, even the Islamic extremists, even bin Laden, rejoice for the entrance of Turkey in the European Union. This is their Trojan horse.” Last week, addressing a delegation of European Muslim leaders, Gaddafi supported Turkey’s membership, using the same argument.

If Robert Gates wants to blame anyone for the West losing Turkey, he should perhaps take a look closer to home – i.e. the U.S. State Department, which, as far as Turkey is concerned, has also been out of touch. For example, in May 2007, Condoleeza Rice stated that the AKP is “a government dedicated to pulling Turkey west toward Europe.” Seven months earlier, when President Sezer and the Turkish military warned about the threat of Islamic fundamentalism, the U.S. Ambassador to Ankara, Ross Wilson, described the debate as “cacophonic” and added: “There is nothing that I see imminently on the horizon that makes me particularly worried.”

The main stumbling block to the continuation of EU accession talks with Turkey is the Cyprus question. Here Ross Wilson’s successor, James Jeffrey, tops the bill when, in a February interview with the Turkish daily Sabah, he stated: “Geographically, Turkey is closer to the EU than Cyprus. Cyprus was still an EU member when I last checked. As a matter of fact, most of Turkey is closer to Berlin or Paris. Under these conditions, what keeps Turkey out of the EU?”

There is a further truth which has eluded Robert Gates. As the little-known Turkish philosopher from the 1950’s, Celal Yaliniz, once wrote: “Turkey is a ship heading for the East. Those aboard think they are heading for the West. In fact, they are just running westwards in a ship sailing eastwards.”

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French dhimmi cops ban sausage and booze party for fear of offending Muslims
Of course, it was to be held in a "heavily Muslim neighborhood" -- a provocation, to be sure. And yet I can't help but wonder what might have happened if a Muslim group in France had announced that it was going to do something in a non-Muslim area that many non-Muslims found offensive. (That would not be the same thing as holding the halal event in the same area, as described in the article below.) I expect that the same police who banned this party would be protecting the Muslims physically and lecturing the non-Muslims about "tolerance."

"French police ban planned street party serving pork and wine in heavily Muslim neighborhood," by Pierre-Yves Roger for Associated Press, June 15:
PARIS (AP) -- French police have banned a street party whose organizers planned to serve alcoholic cocktails and pork sausages in a heavily Muslim neighborhood of Paris, authorities said in a statement Tuesday.
Police said the party, called "Sausage and Booze," could have been viewed as a provocation in the Goutte-d'Or neighborhood of northern Paris, where many Muslims pray on the streets because there are not enough mosques. Alcohol and pork are forbidden by Islam and the party had been slated for just after Friday's main Muslim weekly prayers.

Organizers said they were holding the party to protest Islam's encroachment on traditional French values in the neighborhood. Muslim groups had announced a counterparty serving halal, or religiously approved, food.

Police banned both events.

"Because of the organization, location, day and timing chosen, as well as the counterparty plans, this event ... creates grave risks of public trouble," the police statement said. Police also said they met at length with organizers on Tuesday before announcing the ban.

French rights group SOS Racisme praised the ban on the party, which they called it a "flagrant call for hatred."
The woman who organized the party on Facebook and gives her name as Sylvie Francois denies any ties to the extreme right. She told the free daily Metro newspaper on Tuesday that she had launched the party as a way to "express exasperation."

She complained that the "Islamization" of her working-class neighborhood was "more and more ostentatious," and complained that Muslims now block several streets during Friday prayers.

"It offends my concept of the republic's secularism, I feel increasingly excluded in the neighborhood," Francois said....
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UK Muslims Spit on Troops During Homecoming (Again)



HERO British troops were yesterday spat at by Muslim extremists during a homecoming parade.

More than 100 supporters of Muslims Against Crusades left onlookers sickened as they hurled abuse at the 1st Battalion the Royal Anglian Regiment, known as The Vikings.

The soldiers, who lost five men in Afghanistan on a six-month tour, were confronted by the bearded hate mob in Barking, Essex.

But the protesters were soon cowering behind police after furious onlookers and members of the controversial English Defence League surged toward them with chants of “scum” and “traitors”....

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A party is good, wine is fine but pork is a no no for me, not a muslim but a Jew.

When I lived in Maryland a couple of Muslims bought a house next door to me. Heck they drank all of the time and PARTY, Whoo.
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