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Old 10-09-2006, 05:45 AM
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Battle rages in Shia Iraqi town

All routes into and out of the city have been sealed off

US and Iraqi troops have killed 30 suspected Shia militants during heavy clashes in the southern Iraqi city of Diwaniya, the US military has said.
The fighting erupted as troops went in to arrest a militant responsible for earlier killings, they said.
It is thought the rebels were from cleric Moqtada Sadr's Mehdi Army, but its officials in Baghdad blamed "rogue elements" out of his control.
In Baghdad, police have found 51 bodies of people who were abducted and killed.
Meanwhile, a 36-hour curfew was lifted in the northern city of Kirkuk following a huge security operation.
Thousands of Iraqi army and police force personnel backed by US-led coalition troops combed Kirkuk for insurgents, while US troops lent helicopter support.
Nobody slept in Diwaniya last night. The fighting was very fierce


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Police said about 180 people were detained and large quantities of arms and ammunition seized.
The BBC's Jim Muir in Baghdad says tensions have been rising in Kirkuk, which is home to Kurds, Arabs and Turkmens who claim ownership of the city and the oil-rich lands around it.
Regional tension
A curfew was imposed for most of the day in Diwaniya, a mainly Shia town, following the destruction of a US tank during the clashes. It has now been lifted.
The militants launched rocket-propelled grenades (RPG) against the troops who raided the house of Kifah al-Greiti, a Mehdi Army commander, the Associated Press news agency says, quoting an Iraqi army officer.


"An M1A2 Abrams tank was struck by multiple RPG rounds and was severely damaged," the US military statement said.
Iraqi and US troops then "engaged the enemy forces and killed approximately 30 of the terrorists", it said.
It said coalition and Iraqi forces had suffered no casualties.
The rebels said only three people had been injured.
A witness told Reuters news agency: "Nobody slept in Diwaniya last night. The fighting was very fierce."
Tensions high
Our Baghdad correspondent says tensions have been high in the area since fierce fighting in August between the Mehdi Army and Iraqi government forces and US troops.
The Mehdi army is said to have lost its cohesion


It is not yet clear whether these latest clashes involve the Mehdi army itself.
Recent reports have suggested that the militia is not cohesive and that more radical elements may have split off, says our correspondent. Whatever the case, the people fighting the Americans in Diwaniya are clearly not Sunni militants, who form the bulk of the insurgency against the coalition forces and the Iraqi government, our correspondent says.
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Old 10-09-2006, 05:48 AM
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According to Mullah news in Iran, the Iraqi government has no idea why the U.S has attacked this city. The mullah news never mentioned participation of the Iraqi Army or the fact they were fighting the Mehdi Army!
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Old 10-09-2006, 11:49 AM
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The Iraqi Government is mainly Shia ,it is obvious what Irans government is doing when they restrict certain news.

What is the word on the street about that cleric that got arrested in Iran yesterday?
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Frankly, this shows a considerable step foward in the ability of the new Iraqi Army to take control of its own country. What this means, however, is up for debate. A free society in Iraq will obviously only cause major rifts between the several sects of Islam in that country, knowing that many of these sects prefer religious dominance over a truly free society. Even if not the United States needs to understand that democracy does not equal a puppet state, like it has been shown in Palestine and Iran.

Frankly, I would expect the majority of the U.S. Army to leave Iraq by 2010 and leave strategic amounts of reserves [~30,000-50,000] in firebases around the oil fields and larger cities, prepared to lend support to the Iraqi Army during times of crisis - for example, large rebellions. Otherwise, I'd expect the Iraqi Army to slowly take the reins of their country. If the Iraqi Army and the U.S. Army continue on these mutual missions I think that the former will gain a larger amount of fighting cohesiveness, and at some point could even work alone [which would be the goal, no?]. I think in the short term this is the most important step to the United States getting out of Iraq and the country being given back its autonomy from the United States' military occupation.

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"An M1A2 Abrams tank was struck by multiple RPG rounds and was severely damaged," the US military statement said.


Hee, that means their RPG-7s are relatively obsolete now, and that Iraqi militants don't have large quantities of RPG-29s yet, although penetration on the RPG-29 is only marginally better.
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"Hee, that means their RPG-7s are relatively obsolete now, and that Iraqi militants don't have large quantities of RPG-29s yet, although penetration on the RPG-29 is only marginally better."

The Abrams is the best tank in history, but RPGs/LAWs/AT-4s/etc. can still knock off road wheels, damage gun tubes, destroy sights/vision blocks, etc. Tough to kill, but it can be stopped.

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