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Exclamation Insult after injury: Egypt’s muslim-christian ‘reconciliation meetings’

INSULT AFTER INJURY: EGYPT’S MUSLIM-CHRISTIAN ‘RECONCILIATION MEETINGS’
After Muslim mobs injure Christians, the authorities insult them.
BY Raymond Ibrahim




http://www.frontpagemag.com/fpm/2638...aymond-ibrahim


Reprinted from Coptic Solidarity - http://www.copticsolidarity.org/2016...tion-meetings/

Raymond Ibrahim is a Shillman Fellow at the David Horowitz Freedom Center

We often hear about Egypt’s Christians being attacked by Muslim mobs. What we rarely hear about is what happens afterwards.

Are the culprits imprisoned? Are the victims compensated? Do authorities take measures to help prevent such attacks from happening again?

While the acquainted reader may correctly assume no, the anatomy of what always takes place is of interest.

First, the attack itself is often based on the accusation that some Christian dared overstep his bounds, that is, he broke Islam’s supremacist dhimma contract (http://www.raymondibrahim.com/2014/0...tions-of-omar/).

Christians trying to build a church (http://www.raymondibrahim.com/2016/0...ns-never-stop/), romantically involved with Muslim girls (http://www.raymondibrahim.com/2016/0...ristian-woman/), or insulting Muhammad (http://www.raymondibrahim.com/2015/1...-of-isis/)—all banned according to Islam—are typical violations that prompt large, armed Muslim mobs to attack all the Christians in that village (and their church if one exists) as a form of collective punishment, which is also Islamic (http://www.raymondibrahim.com/2013/0...of-christians/).

While the attack is in progress, the besieged Christians do the only thing they can: frantically call the local police and/or state security.

Based on private conversations with those involved, formal complaints from the Coptic Orthodox Church of Egypt, and objective media reporting, here’s what happens practically every single time:

Police and state security take their time to get to the scene, allowing the mob ample time to riot with impunity. It is not uncommon for authorities to arrive two or three hours after a mob attack commences—even when they are closely stationed.

For example, after 3,000 Muslims rose in violence against the Christians of a village near Alexandria in 2012, it took the army an hour to arrive—even though it was stationed a mere mile away: “This happens every time,” said a Christian eyewitness. “They wait outside the village until the Muslims have had enough violence, then they appear” (Crucified Again - https://www.amazon.com/Crucified-Aga...SIN=1621570258, p. 175).

After the uprising has fizzled out, authorities arrive. Instead of looking for and arresting the culprits or mob ringleaders—or, as often is the case, the local imam who incites the Muslim mob against the “uppity infidels” who need to be reminded of “their place”—authorities gather the leaders of the Christian and Muslim communities together in what are termed “reconciliation meetings.” During these meetings, Christians are asked to make further concessions to angry Muslims.

Authorities tell Christian leaders things like, “Yes, we understand the situation and your innocence, but the only way to create calm in the village is for X [the offending Christian and extended family, all of whom may have been beat] to leave the village—just for now, until things calm down.” Or, “Yes, we understand you need a church, but as you can see, the situation is volatile right now, so, for the time being, maybe you can walk to the church in the next town six miles away—you know, until things die down.”

Needless to say, things never “die down” or “return to normal.” Christians who agree to banishment are seldom allowed reentry and churches rarely resume being built, for the mob will rise up again.

To be sure, when the authorities arrive to the scene of the crime, beaten and robbed Christians regularly reject the idea of being placed into a room with their persecutors in a mock reconciliation meeting that has proven time and again only to add insult to injury.

But when they rebuff the authorities’ offer and demand their rights as citizens against the culprits, the authorities smile and say “okay.” Then they go through the village making arrests—except that most of those whom they arrest are Christian youths. Then they tell the Christian leaders, “Well, we’ve made the arrests. But, just as you say so-and-so [Muslim] was involved, there are even more witnesses [Muslims] who insist your own [Christian] youths were the ones who began the violence. So, we can either arrest and prosecute them, or you can rethink our offer about having a reconciliation meeting.”

Under the circumstances, dejected Christians generally agree to the further mockery. What alternative do they have? They know if they don’t their youth will certainly go to prison and be tortured. In one recent incident, wounded Christians who dared fight against Muslim attackers were arrested and, despite serious injuries, held for seven hours (http://www.light-dark.net/t769324-%2...587%25D9%2585-) and prevented from receiving medical attention.

This issue of reconciliation meetings is so prevalent and prevents Copts from receiving any justice that a 2009 book is entirely devoted to it. According to a review (http://en.wataninet.com/coptic-affai...aside-2/16545/) of the book, which is titled (in translation), Traditional Reconciliation Sessions and Copts: Where the Culprit Emerges Triumphant and the Victim is Crushed:

In some 100 pages the book reviews how the security apparatus in Egypt chooses to ‘reconcile’ the culprits and the victims in crimes where churches are burned; Coptic property and homes plundered, and Copts themselves assaulted, beaten and sometimes murdered; and when even monks are not spared. Even though it stands to reason that such cases should be seen in courts of law where the culprits would be handed fair sentences, this is almost never allowed to take place. And even in the few cases which managed to find their way into the courts, the culprits were never handed fair sentences since the police invariably fell short of providing any incriminating evidence against them.

The farcical scenario of reconciliation sessions has thus without fail dominated the scene where attacks against Copts are concerned, even though these sessions proved to be nothing but a severe retreat of civil rights.

Politically speaking, the authorities aim—through the reconciliation sessions—to secure a rosy façade of the ‘time-honoured[’] amicable relationships between Muslims and Copts’, implying that they live happily ever after. The heartbreaking outcome, however, is that the only winners in these sessions are the trouble mongers and fanatics who induce the attacks in the first place and who more often than not escape punishment and emerge victorious. The Coptic victims are left to lick their wounds.

Worse, not only are the victims denied any justice, but the aggressors are further emboldened to attack again. As Coptic Bishop Makarious of Minya recently put it in the context of discussing how Coptic Christians are now being attacked at the rate of every two or three days (http://www.raymondibrahim.com/2016/0...-three-days/):

As long as the attackers are never punished, and the armed forces are portrayed as doing their duty, this will just encourage others to continue the attacks, since, even if they are arrested, they will be quickly released.

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Thumbs down Islamic Strategy Dictates Hostility towards Infidels, Tolerance Is Un-Islamic

Palestinian Cleric Issam Amira at Al-Aqsa Mosque:
Islamic Strategy Dictates Hostility towards Infidels, Tolerance Is Un-Islamic




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June 18, 2016
Clip No. 5626

Palestinian Cleric Issam Amira at Al-Aqsa Mosque: Islamic Strategy Dictates Hostility towards Infidels, Tolerance Is Un-Islamic

In a Ramadhan address delivered at the Al-Aqsa Mosque, Palestinian cleric Sheikh Issam Amira said that "friendship and tolerance toward infidels are unacceptable" and complained that "the word 'hostility' is all but absent from the Muslims' political vocabulary today." Insisting upon use of the word "infidel" and saying that "the strategy in Islam is hostility toward non-Muslims," Sheikh Amira asked: "What kind of tolerance is possible with these people?" The address was delivered on June 18 and was posted two days later on a YouTube page dedicated to Al-Aqsa Mosque lectures.

Following are excerpts

Issam Amira: The Quran verse reads: "mighty against the infidels," because friendship and tolerance toward infidels are unacceptable. The notion [of tolerance] is very dangerous. It is being peddled to Muslims today [by people who say]: "Brother, Islam is a religion of tolerance. Why aren't you being tolerant? Why use harsh words [when talking about non-Muslims]?"

Once I took part in a discussion, in which we were talking about global politics, and about our relations with America and Russia, and the word "infidels" came up. After the discussion, somebody objected. He said: Brother, say "America" and "Russia", but do not say "infidels." Allah called them "infidels," so why should I be ashamed to call them that?

They want to water down these forceful and powerful terms, which embody the loftiness and might of the Muslims. They want to degrade Muslim might and turn it into cheap tolerance toward those who plundered our land, attacked our homes and destroyed them, killed [Muslims], and violated the honor of their women. What kind of tolerance is possible with these people? There is only one kind of punishment for those people: to stop them, to wreak vengeance upon them, and to teach them a lesson. This is not achieved through tolerance, negotiations, or kindness. It is achieved only though might.

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Might means forcefulness, ruthlessness, and hostility. The word "hostility" is all but absent from the Muslims' political vocabulary today. They say: "Let's make peace and normalize relations. There is no need to remain in a state of war..." It brings to mind the lies of the damned Sadat, who said, when he signed the Camp David Accords: "Enough! From now on, I do not want to send my children to their deaths." Do you think you are doing them a favor? These young men want to wage Jihad. Do you think you're doing them a favor by preventing them from reaching Paradise, and by keeping them here, where they live as half-men? There should be hostility toward infidels. Just as they are hostile toward you, you should be hostile toward them. The strategy in Islam is hostility toward non-Muslims.

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Exclamation "Christians Are Untouchables! They Are Meant for Cleaning Our Houses."

"Christians Are Untouchables! They Are Meant for Cleaning Our Houses."
Muslim Persecution of Christians, June 2016
by Raymond Ibrahim
October 2, 2016



Three Muslim men slaughtered a 15-year-old Christian student, Wajaesh Shono. One of the murderers was the boy's schoolteacher. — Pakistan.

A Muslim mob killed and beheaded a Christian pastor's wife based on a false accusation of "blasphemy." — Nigeria.

His father and stepmother became furious when they learned of the boy's conversion. They began... starving him, in keeping with Islamic law recommendations for apostate women and children. — Uganda.

As usual, Egyptian TV reported the one-sided attacks from the Muslim majority on the Christian minority as "clashes." After arriving, the police stood back and allowed the mob to continue rioting, plundering and setting more Christian homes and vehicles on fire. — Egypt.

A Christian woman who escaped ISIS said the militants "married and divorced" her as many as nine times every night to justify the act of raping her. — Iraq.

Christians reciting the rosary inside St. Anthony Church in Ventimiglia, Italy were told by refugee-volunteers to keep their prayers down as they were bothering newly arrived Muslim migrants. — Italy.

At the height of one of the worst months for Christians under Islam, June, 2016, both the U.S. government and "mainstream" media continued to ignore the plight of Christians.

Despite the U.S. government acknowledging that ISIS is committing genocide against Christians (https://www.gatestoneinstitute.org/8...refugee-policy) in Iraq and Syria, statistics (http://www.christianpost.com/news/ob...lKqIBYWR00M.99) showed the number of refugees the Obama administration has welcomed since the start of 2015:

From Syria: 5,435 Muslims; 28 Christians
From Iraq: 11,086 Muslims; 433 Christians

As for the mainstream media, the death of a gorilla was covered six times more than the Muslim slaughter of Christians for their faith, according to a report. (http://www.newsbusters.org/blogs/cul...tian-beheading)

June's roundup of Muslim persecution of Christians around the world includes, but is not limited to, the following:

Muslim Slaughter of Christians


Read all the rest here> https://www.gatestoneinstitute.org/9...rsecution-june
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