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Old 11-30-2009, 03:59 AM
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I hope this is not true, or that the Russians stall longer:

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Moscow (AFP) Nov 27, 2009

Russia has assured Iran it will honour a deal to supply the Islamic Republic with advanced S-300 air-defence missiles, Tehran's ambassador to Moscow said Friday.

"We had heard reports that Russia would not deliver these systems to Iran, but we asked the Russian side and they denied it," Seyed Mahmoud Reza Sajadi told reporters in Moscow.

"The delivery deadline has already passed, but the Russian side has cited technical problems which it is working to fix," he added. "We feel that this question will be resolved in the space of one to two months."

The envoy's comments came after Iranian officials had accused Moscow of violating its contract and succumbing to growing pressure from the United States and Israel to halt delivery of the missile systems.

Russia, Iran's closest ally among major world powers, has never officially confirmed the S-300 contract but has reserved the right to sell arms to Iran as long as they are defensive in nature.

Russia's Interfax news agency has reported that the contract calls for Moscow to sell Tehran five batteries of S-300PMU1 missiles for a total price of around 800 million dollars (530 million euros).

A top Iranian general said this month that Russia was six months late in supplying the missiles.

"The contract for the delivery of the Russian S-300 systems is signed. These are defence weapons, intended particularly for the defence of Bushehr (nuclear power plant) which Russian specialists are building in southern Iran," Sajadi said.

"Neither side plans to go back on this contract.... It is profitable for both sides," the diplomat said.

The S-300PMU1, codenamed the SA-20 Gargoyle by NATO, is a mobile land-based system designed to shoot down aircraft and cruise missiles.

The United States and Israel -- neither of which have ruled out air strikes to prevent the Islamic Republic from acquiring an atomic bomb -- fear Iran could use the systems to boost defences around its nuclear sites.

Iran denies developing atomic weapons and insists that its nuclear energy programme is peaceful in nature.

Russia has largely backed Iran's claims and is building Iran's first nuclear power plant in Bushehr.
Source: http://www.spacewar.com/reports/Russ...lomat_999.html

I am worried about the statement "We feel that this question will be resolved in the space of one to two months", but there are other examples where the Russians have stalled for a very long time (I am thinking of the Russian aircraft carrier purchased by India.)
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I guess an EMP could do the trick of rendering this system inoperant. Or maybe sabotaging the... no, I will not say it - surely there are iranians reading this, and Israel's military surely have thought of it before this little schmuck! :)
I only hope there was a way to produce an EMP without resorting to atom power, because Israel would be crushed for good by the whole world for it.
Maybe some kind of lighting-triggered radiation focusing device... Who knows if it does not exist already...
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I never had any doubt that the Russians would eventually supply the system to Iran. They just wanted to get whatever they could out of Israel first. Yes, Israel can overcome the SA-20 - but it adds another wrinkle to any operation.
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Another news report, suggesting that the Russians are dangling the potential delivery of S-300 SAM's to Iran as a ploy to get US concessions, as the Obama Administration attempts to gain international support for new sanctions on Iran:
http://www.upi.com/Business_News/Sec...7911266257035/

The Russians will eventually deliver the missiles. They just wring every possible deal they can out of the US and Israel before doing so.
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It is apparent to anyone who's been following Iran's ambitions that the longer the free world stalls a mil op against Iran, the more tactically difficult it gets.
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Planeman has done an excellent analysis based only on open source material, google earth etc. Here - http://planeman-bluffersguide.blogsp...at-natanz.html . He had also earlier done a more comprehensive bluffer's guide on Iran, its not on the blog but am sure anyone intersted can google it up, it was called Fortress Iran, was in 2 parts.
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Planeman has done an excellent analysis based only on open source material, google earth etc. Here - http://planeman-bluffersguide.blogsp...at-natanz.html . He had also earlier done a more comprehensive bluffer's guide on Iran, its not on the blog but am sure anyone intersted can google it up, it was called Fortress Iran, was in 2 parts.
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Of course they will deliver this system,Russia is in bad economic situation,(only from TOR-M1 russia get 700 milion$ from Iran and India also have agreement worth 5 bilion $ with Russia including modernization of SU-30,the carrier Горшков and nuclear sub Mерпа this deal includes modernisation of T-72M1 and assistance in India manufacture of T-90 MBT+Stealth-hi tech.)...and this system is definately dangerous.

I just doubt that Israel will overcame so easy(this is NOT the same system like the one on Cyprus which is now in Greece) here only EW measures are effective and attacking this system is bad option(physical destroying)...

check this it comes in package...this are decoy's that on sattelite or Aircraft Radar is shown as a REAL thread...but actually is baloon with materials enought to lie the electronic's and guided bomb's,cruise missiles...(note the difference in the first picture between a real C-300 and decoy).
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More on Iran trying to sway Moscow to deliver the missiles.
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn...040600218.html

As I've said before: the Russians will attempt to extract every concession and weapons technology that they can from the West (including the ongoing delivery of UAV's from Israel), and will then deliver the S-300 to Iran anyways. In the meantime, I'd expect to see Iran combing the world's arms bazaars for alternative, stopgap weapons - most likely from China.
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Anyone feel frikking stupid yet? Not the Democrats for sure. Not the 🇮🇳 National Congress. Putin outsmarted you all.
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7 long years, how time has passed and geopolitics has changed, now Putin and Modi are in charge 🙏🏾🤗🕉🕎
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Forgot to mention Netyanhu, if only Republicans hadn't chickened out you could have had Bobby Jindal as POTUS
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