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Old 06-10-2009, 03:19 PM
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Default Israeli Ace Iftach Spector's New Book

A few weeks back, I stumbled upon a great new book called "Loud and Clear." It is the memoir from Israeli fighter ace Iftach Spector and reads like a history of the IAF. Spector's career was controversial, but remarkable. He led the flight that mistakenly attacked the USS Liberty during the Six Day War. He was one of eight Israeli pilots who attacked and destroyed Saddam Hussein's nuclear reactor at Osirak in 1981. He was the senior signatory of the famous "Pilots' Letter," in which twenty-eight Israeli pilots stated their refusal to bomb targets in Palestine where collateral damade would likely be severe. Plus, he is one of jet aviation's few aces, having downed 12 MiGs (plus 3 more as "unit scores"). This guy is off-the-charts amazing!

Does anyone know of any other good Israeli military history books? Perhaps something on the Six-Day War? I'm always looking for some good reading!
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Old 06-10-2009, 08:11 PM
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I remember when the "Pilot's Letter" came out in 2003. It was an incredible blunder on their part, coming as it did on the heels of waves of suicide bombings against Israeli civilians. Spector and all of the pilots involved were banned from playing any role in training future Israeli pilots, and hundreds of other Israeli air force pilots subsequently signed a petition denouncing the "Pilot's Letter".

Spector was a great pilot. Throughout the early decades of Israel's existence, however, a disproportionate number among Israel's senior officers in both the army and air force hailed from the socialist Kibbutz and Moshav communities, and were aligned with either the Labor Party (Mapai) or Mapam. Spector's political leanings are therefore none too surprising.

I haven't actually read his book - although I see that it just came out on June 15th of this year. Did Spector acknowledge that - as the senior air base commander, he had bumped another pilot (with more hours in the F-16) to participate in the 1981 Osirak raid? I have to admire his commitment, although not necessarily his judgement. Spector was known as a superb air-to-air adversary. In the Osirak raid, however, he was the only one whose bombs did not score a direct hit on the reactor dome and core.

If you are looking for books on the Six Day War, Michael Oren's account, Six Days of War (Oxford University Press, 2002) is probably the most comprehensive. If you're looking for something more specific let us know. There are quite a few books dealing with Israel's air force, commando units, or armored corps.
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Old 06-10-2009, 09:52 PM
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Raid on the Sun describes that story about Spector bumping the other pilot.

http://www.strategypage.com/bookreviews/246.asp

I would like to read this latest book, but am reluctant to buy it as I am reluctant to “vote with my dollars” in favor of his political stand. I may just wait a while and borrow it from the library or pick it up as a bargain book.
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Old 06-11-2009, 12:06 AM
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There have actually been four books that have covered the Osirak reactor raid in some detail.
Two Minutes Over Baghdad by Amos Perlmutter, Michael Handel and Uri Bar-Joseph was originally published in 1982, and was subsequently updated and re-released in 2003. Although not a bad reference work, it has the texture of a journalistic exercise - being written by a trio of PhD's.

First Strike by Shlomo Nakdimon was published in 1987, and provides a detailed account of the political maneuvers - both inside of Israel and outside - that led up to the actual raid. It's account of the actual operation itself, on the other hand, has somewhat less depth.

Dan McKinnon's book on the Osirak raid was originally published in 1987 under the title of Bullseye One Reactor, and was re-published in paperback in 1990 under the title Bullseye Iraq. McKinnon was allowed to interview the Israeli pilots who participated in the raid - although at the time that his book was published, he was not allowed to reveal individual pilot names. Some of those names were finally released years later (and appear in the later edition of Two Minutes Over Baghdad as well as in Raid on the Sun). McKinnon's account of the raid, however, is by far the most riveting of the four books. McKinnon was himself a US naval aviator, and provides a first-hand view from the cockpit that is absent from the other accounts.

Raid on the Sun by Rodger W Claire was published in 2004. Like McKinnon Rodger Claire was granted access to interview many of the pilots who had participated in the raid - although as journalist, without direct experience in the cockpit, his accounts of the mission itself lack some of the immediacy that McKinnon was able to bring. Still a good book, however.
Both McKinnon and Claire describe Yiftach Spector's decision to bump one of the F-16 pilots from the operation, and the resentment that decision instilled. Both are good books, although I still prefer McKinnon's account over Claire's.

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Thank you for the recommendation on the McKinnon book. I’ll have to check that out.
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hey everybody

I'm always eager to find stuff to read about Israel's military. Particularly about the army's exploits and also the Air Forces'.

I've got lots of books already and am trying to find more books to read from fighter pilots.

So far, I've got Amos Amir's 'Fire In the Sky', and also recently bought Iftach Spector's 'Loud and Clear' and Boris Senior's 'New Heavens'.

I was hoping that storied pilots like Moshe Melnik, Giora Epstein, Ran Ronen would have written about their experiences but so far, nothing.

Could anybody suggest any to me?

And yes, Rodger Claire's book was really quite fascinating. =)
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Old 08-23-2009, 10:21 PM
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I've got lots of books already and am trying to find more books to read from fighter pilots.

. . .

Could anybody suggest any to me?
Sounds like a good topic for a thread of its own. I'll see what I can come up with as a starter-list.
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Old 09-16-2009, 08:45 AM
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I've finished Spector's book.

Some of the things I liked about this book was that:

1) I got more background information on some of the 'more famous' squadrons. Like the Bats, the Hammers, the Orange Tails, the Falcons.

2) The final chapter, where he wrote about his reunion with the other pilots on that Orisak raid, was quite moving and good.

All in all, it was okay. I would give it 3/5. Hmmm, perhaps Amos Amir's Fire In the Sky had more descriptions about aerial combat, which was actually kind of what I was hoping for.

You read other books from Osprey, like "Israeli F4E Kurnass in Action", and you read about Spector's exploits, and was kinda hoping that he would have elaborated more on it. Oh well.
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