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Arrow Hamas are corrupt killers and torturers holding Gaza hostage

Hamas founder's family:
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Hamas using children as human shields

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Hamas Vows Next Conflict Will Turn Israel into 'Cemetery'



Hamas leader Khaled Mashaal on Friday warned Israel against further strikes on the Gaza Strip, according to an Israel Radio report.


If Israel attacks again, Mashaal was quoted as saying, Gaza will not be defeated, and will instead turn into a "cemetery."

Speaking during a meeting with Lebanese President Michel Suleiman and Lebanese Prime Minister Sa'ad Haririr, the Hamas leader also called on Palestinian Authority President Mahmoud Abbas to restart reconciliation talks between rival Palestinian factions. Hamas and Fatah must "turn over a new page," he said.

Regarding Egypt's construction of a wall along its border with the Strip, Mashaal said, "Walls are built between enemies, not between brothers."
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Hamas using children as human shields


A very brave young man, I wish him well in his new life in America.

It is a shame there is not more world wide coverage of the articles in the above two video's.

It is also interesting to compare the calm reasonable delivery by the young man explaining why he left the Hamas terrorist scum, to the usual screaming hate filled rantings of the Hamas sharia jihadi nutcases, and why he converted to Christianity, as he finally realized what Islamic fundamentalism breeds, anti-humanitarian and racist "Hamas".

What is also interesting to see, that it is to America that ex-Moslems flee to for sanctuary and the democratic right to practice their own chosen religon, from their ex-fellow Moslem adherents who want to kill them as apostates against Islam.
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Arrow Hamas used children as human shields and launched attacks from mosques and hospitals

Hamas used children as human shields and launched attacks from mosques and hospitals



They did this, of course, in order to draw retaliatory fire they could then use to claim that Israel was targeting civilians. "'Hamas used kids as human shields,'" by Yaakov Katz for the Jerusalem Post, March 15 (thanks to Weasel Zippers):
Hamas gunmen used Palestinian children as human shields, and established command centers and Kassam launch pads in and near more than 100 mosques and hospitals during Operation Cast Lead in the Gaza Strip last year, according to a new Israeli report being released on Monday that aims to counter criticism of the IDF.

The detailed 500-page report, obtained exclusively by The Jerusalem Post, was written by the Intelligence and Terrorism Information Center (Malam), a small research group led by Col. (res.) Reuven Erlich, a former Military Intelligence officer who works closely with the army.

The IDF and the Shin Bet (Israel Security Agency) cooperated with the report's authors and declassified hundreds of photographs, videos, prisoner interrogations and Hamas-drawn sketches as part of an effort to counter the criticism leveled at Israel in the UN-sponsored Goldstone Report....
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Arrow Hamas Accused of 'Abandoning Islam' - Devout Muslims Switching Loyalty to al-Qaeda




Thousands of former Hamas members have switched their loyalties, and now belong to a Salafi terrorist group inspired by Al-Qaeda, a Gaza terrorist told the Palestinian Authority-based Maan news agency.

The terrorist, Abu Al-Hareth, is the founder of Jund Ansar Allah, a Salafi group that has clashed with Hamas and challenges its control of Gaza. There are more than 11,000 Salafists in Gaza today, Hareth claimed, 70 percent of them former members of Hamas.

The once-Hamas, now Salafi terrorists are termed Jaljalat, he said. Jund Ansar Allah is one of the four groups comprising the Jaljalat; the others are Jund Allah, A-Taweed wa-Jihad, and the Army of Islam (Jamat Jaish al-Islam).

The Army of Islam was behind the kidnapping of Israeli soldier Gilad Shalit, who was later turned over to Hamas. It also kidnapped British journalist Alan Johnston, who was released unharmed after several weeks in captivity.

The Jaljalat is not officially linked to Al-Qaeda but is influenced by its worldview and models itself after Al-Qaeda cells in Iraq, Afghanistan and elsewhere, Hareth said. Its followers obey religious figures such as Shiekh Abu Mohammed al-Maqdisi, a senior figure in Al-Qaeda's Iraq branch.

Hamas and Al-Qaeda: From Cooperation to War
As the Shalit kidnapping demonstrates, the Salafi groups once worked alongside Hamas, and carried out “qualitative military attacks, during which a number of Israelis were killed,” Hareth said.

Recently, tensions have developed between Hamas and the Salafis. In 2009, Jund Ansar Allah declared an “Islamic emirate” in Gaza. Hamas declared war on the group and for hours a battle raged around a Salafi mosque in Gaza town of Rafiah. When the smoke cleared dozens were dead, including Salafi leader Abdel-Latif Moussa.

Following the battle, Al-Qaeda offshoots around the world accused Hamas of "abandoning Islam" and called for revenge....

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Arrow Hamas vows to keep up executions in Gaza Strip

Hamas vows to keep up executions in Gaza Strip

http://www.alarabiya.net/articles/20...19/106311.html


The Palestinian Islamist movement Hamas ruling the Gaza Strip said on Monday it will keep up executions of those convicted of spying for Israel despite the outrage of human rights groups.

"We will continue to implement the death penalty for all those who are so sentenced," Hamas interior minister Fathi Hamad told a press conference, adding that spying for Israel was a "red line" for the Islamist-run government.

"Anyone who finds himself in this treacherous condition is an agent and a spy. He is providing information without regard to who he really is, and should be brought to justice," he said.

"If there is a death sentence we will implement it immediately in order to preserve our people and its project of jihad (holy war) and liberation."

Rights groups roundly condemned the Hamas government's pre-dawn execution by firing squad of two alleged "collaborators" last Thursday, saying there was little chance of them having been given a fair trial in the besieged territory.

Amnesty International called the executions -- the first in Gaza in five years -- an "extremely retrograde step by Hamas" and said the two men were convicted in "unfair military proceedings."

Hamas hit back at such groups, saying "they should speak about the crimes of the (Israeli) agents and not the justice that we are carrying out."

Thursday's execution by firing squad was carried out in defiance of Western-backed President Mahmoud Abbas, who formed a new administration in the West Bank after being expelled from Gaza by Hamas about three years ago....

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Antisemitic Hamas TV Cartoon Portrays Stereotypical Jews, While Accusing Israeli Education System of Racism



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HA HA HA.........

Honestly, I don't know a dime about education of Israel but i know for sure its pretty good.

But i have heard madarsa mumbling a few times
( Hindus & Jews are commited to destroy Islam , a Hindu can never be your friend, this land (India) belongs to us & this country never accepted us & blah blah blah)

I wonder if they are ever tired of this nonsense......
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Exclamation How Hamas Tortures Gaza »

How Hamas Tortures Gaza
Is it really a mystery who brings human suffering to the Palestinians?
by Joseph Klein





John Ging, the Director of the United Nations Relief and Works Agency for Palestine Refugees in the Near East (UNRWA) Operations in Gaza, briefed correspondents at the United Nations headquarters in New York last week on the humanitarian plight of the people in Gaza. He said that the Palestinian people in Gaza faced “a struggle to survive on a daily basis.”

Ging noted that Gaza’s infrastructure was in a state of collapse, as there was no legitimate economy anymore due to lack of commercial trade into or out of the area, nor was there any prospect of a restoration of it as long as the blockade instituted by Israel at the border crossings continued. He also blamed the blockade for preventing the import of vital construction materials needed to build more UNRWA-run schools and classrooms to accommodate the expanding child population in Gaza.

While acknowledging some recent positive developments as Israel has allowed more commercial truckloads to enter Gaza, he said they were “a drop in the bucket.”

“So, if we can have 20 truckloads of aluminium (sic) a month; then why not 50? And if you can have 50, why not a 100?” Ging asked.

Ging blamed the current situation on the failure to implement the detailed Agreement on Movement and Access in Gaza that Israel and the Palestinian Authority negotiated in November 2005 with the help of the World Bank and the Special Envoy of the Mideast Quartet. Although the agreement had specified certain steps to be taken to keep the crossings open and vital supplies flowing into Gaza, those steps were never taken, he claimed, resulting in “bewildering human suffering and misery” for 1.5 million inhabitants of the Gaza.

What Ging neglected to mention is that Hamas and its radical Islamic allies bear much of the blame for the human suffering in Gaza because they are the reason that the Agreement on Movement and Access in Gaza was never fully implemented.

For its part, Israel had in good faith begun to implement this agreement by allowing a significant increase of truckloads into and out of Gaza through the crossing points bordering Israel, after it unilaterally withdrew from Gaza in 2005 and turned over governing responsibilities to the Palestinian Authority.

The Palestinian Authority had agreed on a number of key security measures, including:

• Using international experts and Israeli recommendations to develop a

comprehensive security plan for one of the key border crossings;

• Establishing a secure perimeter to include security fencing, cameras, and motion detectors;

• Establishing a central security control room;

• Procuring appropriate cargo scanning equipment; and

• Developing and documenting security procedures and instructions, including those for coordination with Israeli personnel, and for the training of security personnel.

Israel began following through on its commitments despite the Palestinians’ failure to follow through on their security obligations spelled out in the agreement. And the reason for the Palestinians’ failure was the rise of Hamas in Gaza, the terrorist group that has refused to abide by agreements entered into between Israel and the Palestinian Authority.

Even after Hamas won a majority of legislative seats in January 2006 on a platform that included the vow to destroy the Jewish state, the truckloads continued to flow into and out of Gaza. Data compiled by the Palestine Trade Association provides compelling proof of Israel’s incredible forbearance in the face of Hamas’ provocations and threats to its security. Israel was still hoping to work with Fatah, which maintained some executive powers in Gaza following its legislative defeat and which maintained control of most of the Palestinian security apparatus, to provide for the security that was the condition for Israel to maintain more open border crossings.

Israel’s forbearance continued even after Israeli soldier Gilad Shalit was kidnapped by Hamas militants in the Gaza Strip in a summer 2006 cross-border raid and after Hamas resumed the launching of rockets from Gaza into southern Israel in June 2006 with this threat:

“The earthquake in the Zionist towns will start again and the aggressors will have no choice but to prepare their coffins or their luggage.”

The Al Montar/Karni crossing was the main crossing of the Gaza Strip for both imports and exports. This was the crossing that the Palestinian Authority was supposed to help secure in particular. That did not happen. Nevertheless, between December 2005 and June 2007, according to the Palestine Trade Association, an average of 450 truckloads a day was imported, and an average of 70 truckloads a day was exported. Sufa was used exclusively for the imports of construction materials, with a daily average of about 160 truckloads.

The event that forced Israel’s hand and finally led to the full-blown blockade was when Hamas took over the Gaza Strip completely in a bloody coup against Fatah in June 2007. Egyptian President Hosni Mubarak called Hamas’ take-over a “coup against the Palestinian legitimacy.” Not only did Israel lose the partner it had reached agreement with and upon whom it had relied to help ensure its security. The very entity that Israel saw as the main threat to its security from Gaza was now in complete charge of Gaza.

Beginning June 14, 2007, the Al Montar/Karni crossing was officially closed for both imports and exports. The crossing reopened on June 28, 2007 for limited imports of goods such as wheat and animal feed. Since then, Sufa and Karem Abu Salem /Kerem Shalom crossings were also used, primarily for imports of humanitarian goods, including basic food commodities (e.g. wheat flour, rice, pulses, cooking oil), animal feed and medical equipment. From January 2008 until June 19, 2008, when a ceasefire between Hamas and Israel commenced, over 2000 rockets and mortars were launched by Hamas and its extremist Islamic terrorist allies against Israel.

During the cease-fire or “hudna” period, that started on June 19, 2008 and ended on December 19, 2008, commercial goods were allowed to enter the Gaza Strip including aggregates, cement, construction metal, wood, car tires, clothes, shoes, and fruit juice, but at a much diminished rate compared to the pre-coup period. Hamas “concession” was to agree to stop the launching of unprovoked rocket attacks against Israeli civilians.

Hamas put on a show of discouraging rocket attacks from other terrorist groups during the cease-fire period but explicitly stated it would not police the border with Israel. Some rocket attacks still continued. As reported by Human Rights Watch, while Hamas made some arrests of people accused of firing rockets, all were later released, and no charges were brought against them.

Hamas believed that its restraint in tamping down rocket attacks against innocent Israeli civilians should have been rewarded by an end of the Israeli blockade altogether. Hamas conditioned its willingness to extend the cease-fire upon the complete lifting of the blockade even though by November 2008 about 700 truck loads of goods went into Gaza, which was about the amount of material that would have gone through in a single day even without a blockade.

Hamas’ offer of undertaking to continue trying to stop all rocket attacks against Israel in exchange for a complete lifting of the Israeli blockade was extortion pure and simple, as Hamas had no intention of fulfilling the original security obligations undertaken by the Palestinian Authority in the 2005 Agreement on Movement and Access in Gaza.

On December 20, 2008, Hamas officially announced that it would not agree to extend the cease-fire, which had expired on December 19th, citing Israeli border closures as the primary reason, and resumed its shelling of the western Negev. On December 24, 2008 alone, Hamas launched eighty-seven mortar shells and Katyusha and Qassam rockets in an operation it called “Operation Oil Stain.” Hamas also rejected European mediation of the talks to release Gilad Shalit.

Israel waited eight days after the expiration of the cease-fire, which Hamas refused to renew, and issued a final warning to Hamas. Despite the rocket attacks, Israel even reopened five crossings between Israel and Gaza for humanitarian supplies. Hamas continued the rocket barrage. Israel finally had enough and responded by launching Operation Cast Lead.

Since coming to power in Gaza, Hamas has followed a reckless course that put the Palestinian people living in Gaza in harm’s way. Hamas is responsible for the continuing blockade because its actions have heightened the very security threat that Israel had negotiated with the Palestinian Authority to help prevent, as an integral part of the deal to open up the border crossings in the first place.

Israel is cautiously testing the waters by restoring the level of truckloads of imports entering Gaza in March 2010 to the level it was during the pre-Operation Cast Lead cease-fire period. However, as long as Hamas continues to smuggle arms into Gaza for use against Israel, keeps in effect its Charter’s vow to destroy Israel and continues to renege on agreements entered into between the Palestinian Authority and Israel, including the Palestinians’ security commitments in the 2005 Agreement on Movement and Access in Gaza, it is unreasonable to expect Israel to fully open its borders to the threat of more terrorism.

It is Hamas that continues to hold its own people hostage to its extremist agenda rather than act like the responsible partner for peace that Israel had expected after it turned Gaza over to the Palestinian Authority nearly five years ago.
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Exclamation Who Chose Hamas to Lead Them?

Who Chose Hamas to Lead Them?
Gazans seek sympathy -- after voting in terrorists who vow to exterminate Jews
by Dov Fischer



To understand the people of Gaza, who now lay claim to the passions of humanitarians-without-a-cause, one might begin by considering Gazans’ freely elected leadership: the Hamas terror network. And to understand Hamas, one might begin by looking closely at the Hamas logo. The logo’s center features swords and a golden-domed structure, but the squiggle at the top-center of the logo is most descriptive. One squiggle is worth a thousand words. That squiggle is not an Arabic symbol but the map of Israel.

Look even more carefully: the squiggle – the map of Israel depicted on the Hamas logo – primarily is pre-1967 Israel. It is Israel without the Gaza Strip. Hamas has no designs on the Gaza Strip it controls. Rather, leveraging Gaza as a springboard for its actual aspiration, Hamas illustratively has designs on the only Palestine it ever has coveted: the Palestine that now is called “the State of Israel.” As Jew-hating journalist Helen Thomas recently said about Israelis, “Tell them to get the hell out of Palestine. Remember, these [Arab] people are occupied, and it’s their land.” The Jews, Thomas added, can go back where they come from – “Poland. Germany. . . . And America and everywhere else.” (Reflecting ignorance all too common among the White House press corps, Thomas is unaware that the majority of Israelis are children of the Middle East, descendants of the 850,000 Jews exiled by Northern African Arab dictatorships during the years Israel was being founded.)

The only “Palestine” that ever existed was always synonymous with the Jewish homeland that later was renamed “Israel” in 1948. Rent a copy of the 1960 movie “Exodus.” Listen dispassionately to the dialogue. Don’t take sides. Just listen for definitions. The British, fairly or unfairly, are depicted as the bad guys in the movie, trying to keep the Jews out of “Palestine.” Paul Newman is trying to get the Jews into “Palestine.” Everyone watching the movie perceives that “Palestine” is a name that refers synonymously with “Israel.” Thus, what we seem to have had here is a failure to communicate. It could not be simpler: For the past two thousand years, since the Romans renamed the land of Israel after they expelled and exiled the Jews, “Israel” always was synonymous with “Palestine,” and “Palestine” always was “Israel.”

There never ever was an Arab Palestine entity. Who, after all, ever was its leader? Try to name any leader who ever in history led a sovereign “Palestinian Arab” people of “Arab Palestine.” What year was that entity founded? What was the name of its capital city — any capital city? Where is the drawing or photograph of its seat of government, or the place where its governmental leader lived? What was the name of its currency? Whose face, what slogan was on that currency? When did it fall? In which Olympic Games did it compete? Which issue of Encyclopedia Britannica had an entry for its government?

Consider this way: The American city of Palestine, Texas was founded in 1846. It was so named in honor of an early settler there, Daniel Parker, who hailed from Palestine, Illinois. That Palestine was chartered in 1811. It drew its name in 1678 from the French explorer, Jean LaMotte, who looked at the land and named it “Palestine” because it reminded him of the Biblical Promised Land of the Jews, flowing with milk and honey. No one associated “Palestine” with the Arab community, not even the French in the 1600s. Rather, the name was associated with the Jews and their Biblical Promised Land. The same with Palestine, Arkansas (pop. 741) and East Palestine, Ohio.

Before the Jewish country was named “Israel” in 1948, even the most ardent Jews identified the Jewish homeland as “Palestine.” Today’s Jerusalem Post, the English-language daily newspaper of Israel, originally was called the Palestine Post. The pre-government institution that laid Israel’s political foundation was the Jewish Agency for Palestine, headed by Dr. Chaim Weitzmann, who became Israel’s first head of state.

It is this “Palestine” – namely, the State of Israel – that Hamas forthrightly is determined to seize. The squiggle tells all. To attain the power to pursue its dream of eradicating Israel from the map, Hamas first engaged in more than a decade of bloody terror, killing some 500 people in the course of more than 350 terror attacks since 1993. Hamas popularized suicide bombing. Then, during the January 2006 general elections held freely and with minimal intimidation within the areas of Gaza and the segments of Judea and Samaria (the “West Bank”) controlled by the Palestine Authority, the Palestinian Arab electorate voted Hamas into power. Hamas won 74 seats, compared to 45 for runner-up Fatah. Former President Jimmy Carter monitored the vote and declared the election of Hamas “fair and square,” deeming them free, fair, just, and transparent. That is, the Palestinian Arab voters freely chose to be led by a group of terrorists and suicide-bomb architects outlawed throughout the world. After winning parliamentary elections, Hamas terrorists in Gaza proceeded to launch a bloody internecine war against their political competition, Fatah terrorists loyal to Palestine Authority President Mahmoud Abbas. More than 600 Arab terrorists killed each other during the next eighteen months. Ultimately, Hamas won and seized the reins of power in Gaza. By virtue of the freely expressed will of the people of Gaza, Hamas now enjoys popular support to lead Gazans with the Hamas vision.

On March 5, 1933, the German people cast their ballots, resulting in Adolf Hitler’s ascent to power as chancellor of Germany. The voters knew Hitler’s agenda, and he prosecuted the agenda he promised them. Mass terror followed, and the world was submerged into a war that brought death to tens of millions. By the end, America and England gained an upper hand and had enough. In one midnight hour, the Allies dropped more than 2,300 tons of aerial bombs on Hamburg. During the bombing of Dresden, the allies dropped more than 3,900 tons of bombs in two days, killing some 25,000 Germans. As the debate raged over whether these aerial bombings had been overkill, an underlying justification always lay in the recognition that the German civilian population had elected the Nazis and, by the power of their ballots, willingly brought the war and destruction on others – and, by the end, onto themselves.

So it is with Gazans and the Hamas terror vision for which they voted “fair and square.” In a world that has seen Iranian civilians rise up and, like Neda Soltani, give their very lives trying to liberate themselves from the yoke of an Islamofascist regime led by Ayatollahs and Mahmoud Ahmadinejad, the stark contrast from the people of Gaza is striking.

Gazans celebrate death. They celebrate terror. Given a free choice, they have opted for a vision of terror aimed at wiping out innocent Western lives and eradicating Israel off the face of the earth. In the face of such contemporary persecutions as the Sudanese terror in Darfur and the Turkish oppression of the Kurd minority that now numbers more than two million refugees, can anyone truly make a “fair and square” argument that the people of Gaza are victims of anything other than their own tragically violent predilection to support terror over coexistence and war over peace?

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Hamas and Hezbollah expressed sympathy with the president of Sudan over the second arrest warrant issued against him by the International Criminal Court (ICC) for counts of genocide.

On July 12, 2010, the International Criminal Court (ICC) issued a second warrant of arrest against Sudan’s President Omar al-Bashir for three counts of genocide.

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Arrow 'Hamas cancels unity meeting with Fatah'

'Hamas cancels unity meeting with Fatah'
Report: Decision due to announcement of direct peace talks

http://www.jpost.com/MiddleEast/Article.aspx?id=185602


Hamas postponed a meeting with Fatah indefinitely on Sunday, due to the Palestinian Authority’s decision to enter direct talks with Israel, the Ma’an News Agency reported.

The meeting, which was supposed to take place on Saturday night, had been scheduled in order to address the obstacles to unity between the two groups.

Hamas originally gave no reason for canceling the meeting, which was initiated by Hamas Prime Minister Ismail Haniyeh, according to Ma’an.

Senior Fatah official Salah Abu Khatla told Ma’an that the Fatah delegation was supposed to include senior members Sakher Bseiso and Zakaria al-Agha.

Fatah officials were in the Gaza Strip to attend the funeral of a former PA intelligence official.

With the exception of the PLO Executive Committee, an unelected body dominated by Abbas loyalists, Palestinians across the political spectrum were united over the weekend in denouncing the PA’s “capitulation.” Several Palestinian factions accused the PA leadership of abandoning its conditions and succumbing to outside pressure.

The groups also warned that Abbas does not have a mandate to negotiate on behalf of the Palestinians since his term in office had expired in January.

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Hamas’s homepage has undergone a makeover: The new page has an entrance sign to a Jewish town with a question mark over it. Hamas spokesmen have already announced that the deadly terrorist attack near Hebron is only of many to come.

Hamas has still not officially claimed responsibility for the shooting attack at Rimonim junction last night, but today they are announcing that the deadly Muslim terrorist attack in which four Jews were killed is only one of many planned attacks against Jews in Judea and Samaria.

After the terrorist organization’s spokesmen announced that the attacks are taking place specifically in the background of the renewal of land negotiations in Washington, today their internet website was updated. The “Iz al Din al Kassam Brigades” site, with a rather simplistic graphic design, though with a sharp message: The organization is already planning the next terrorist attack.

Proof of this can be found on the new homepage, the title of which is “There is no respite from the wave of fire.” Next to the title crowned in flame is a picture of a Muslim terror activist, also enveloped in fire. To his left appears the message that Hamas is trying to convey: The sign to the entrance of the Bnei Na’im town in Samaria is also engulfed in flames – behind which is a another sign with a question mark. The fire slowly makes its way to the sign.


Hamas has not hastened to take responsibility
In contrast to the attack two days ago, last night Hamas spokesmen did not hasten to take responsibility for the attack in which a man and his wife were wounded at Rimonim junction. The man was moderately wounded in the legs, and the woman lightly wounded after a passing car opened fire at them. The investigation of the attack is ongoing, which could have ended much worse than it did.

After the attack, the Iz al Din al Kassam Brigades spokesman declared that the attack near Hebron is only one of many that are planned for the near future. “The attack is proof of the failure of security cooperation between the occupation forces and Fatah, and is only the first stage in a series of attacks,” said Hamas spokesman Abu Obeidah.

“We are claiming full responsibility for the heroic act in Hebron. Our men returned in peace to their base,” he added in an interview with a Hamas TV station. “We bless the action, and claim responsibility for executing it.”


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What the IDF need to do is immediately upgrade their “decapitation” campaign against Hamas/Hezbollah leadership.
It has been very sucessful in the past, the Hamas leadership showed their courage in the last Gaza conflict when they either hid like the pathetic rats they are, in underground hospital bunkers, or they fled to other M.E. Arab countries, even the 'courage' (not) of Hamas fighters showed their true colours by hiding behind innocent women and children non-combatants.

Hamas/Hezbollah leaders are not as brave as their mouths are, they are quite happy to send in to martyrdom poor brainwashed suicide bombers to kill in the main innocent civilians, but they are to gutless to become martyr's themselves, and as past examples in the immediate past have occurred when a Hamas/Hezbollah leader has been 'decapitated', their screams of outrage are deafening.

Hamas/Hezbollah criminal leadership live in fear of 'assassination squads' with their name on their list as legitimate targets.

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I have an even better question: will all of this garbage finally convince that little pansy in the White House along with his cabinet of cowards to authorize termination with extreme prejudice of Hamas leaders by whatever means necessary? The moment has come (and actually is long past due) for a definitive show of force...and not with locked and loaded paintball guns either. It's about time we claimed "full responsibility" for some genuinely heroic acts such as ridding the world of a bunch of these Islamic vermin.
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What the IDF need to do is immediately upgrade their “decapitation” campaign against Hamas/Hezbollah leadership.
It has been very sucessful in the past, the Hamas leadership showed their courage in the last Gaza conflict when they either hid like the pathetic rats they are, in underground hospital bunkers, or they fled to other M.E. Arab countries, even the 'courage' (not) of Hamas fighters showed their true colours by hiding behind innocent women and children non-combatants.

Hamas/Hezbollah leaders are not as brave as their mouths are, they are quite happy to send in to martyrdom poor brainwashed suicide bombers to kill in the main innocent civilians, but they are to gutless to become martyr's themselves, and as past examples in the immediate past have occurred when a Hamas/Hezbollah leader has been 'decapitated' their screams of outrage are deafening.

Hamas/Hezbollah criminal leadership live in fear of 'assassination squads' with their name on their list as legitimate targets.
Our postings crossed as I said something quite similar, but certainly agree entirely with what you've stated.
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It is another example of how Hamas exploits Britain for political, propaganda and legal activities. Most of the activities are aimed against Israel, but some also against the Palestinian Authority and Egypt.


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If the US is truly commited to fighting terrorism and seeks to destroy all terror cells in the world. They should commit to taking out hamas and hez. They are offering to assist yemen with soldiers to fight al queda. Why not send some troops in to take out hamas and liberate the palestinians like the afghans and iraqis?
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