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Arrow Pamela Geller and Islamic supremacist liar talk the Ground Zero Mosque on CNN Sunday

Pamela Geller and Islamic supremacist liar talk the Ground Zero Mosque on CNN Sunday morning

Note how the CNN reporter repeatedly interrupts Pamela with hostile questions, and then coos and fawns over this dishonest Islamic supremacist spokesman, allowing him to engage in the ad hominems so often favored by Islamic apologists when they cannot answer on the basis of the facts.
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Default STOP THE MOSQUE Rally at Ground Zero a huge success!

STOP THE MOSQUE Rally at Ground Zero a huge success!
Thanks to Pamela Geller of ATLAS SHRUGS and Robert Spencer of JIHAD WATCH for organizing this event.


Pamela writes: Despite weather forecasts of thunderstorms and rain, the skies were clear and beautiful — but not as beautiful as this patriotic crowd of great Americans and Europeans. It was a real cross section of humanity ………. ever race, creed, color and religion were out in all their glory.





But this is just the beginning. We are going to sue to designate theBurlington building a war memorial. There is a large piece of an airplane in that building. That is a war memorial. Instead of a mega mosque at ground zero, let’s build a 911 war memorial to the victims. The current plan for a 911 museum is several floors underground, like a dungeon. And the mosque plan calls for the mosque to be on the top floor, looking down triumphantly on the burial ground of Ground Zero.




The Burlington building must be a war memorial, an historic landmark. We will sue to make that happen. We will protest again in September and stage sit-ins in front of the mosque should they try to break ground. Three thousand good and decent Americans did not die in vain.

Pamela Geller did interviews with Al-Jazeera, AP, Chilean television, Italian television and many others; I was interviewed by Italian television and TV Asia. ABC? NBC? CBS? CNN? Even FOX? AWOL.

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Rally Against the Ground Zero Mosque
Demonstrators speak out against a symbol of conquest
by Fern Sidman



“No mosque at Ground Zero” was the rallying cry of the day as thousands of angry demonstrators gathered for a rally to oppose the proposed construction of a 13-story mosque just blocks away from the site of the 9/11 attacks. A palpable patriotism and zeal filled the air on Sunday afternoon, June 6th, as Zucotti Park at the corner of Church and Liberty Streets in lower Manhattan was filled to capacity. Rally attendees who came from as far as Chicago and Los Angeles held signs saying, “Ground Zero is a War Memorial – No Mega Mosque here,” ”You Can Build a Mosque at Ground Zero – When Can We Build a Synagogue in Mecca?”, “Pack Your Sharia and Get Out,” and “Mayor Bloomberg: This Mosque Has Radical Ties – and you still approve?” Hundreds of American flags blew in the summer breeze as speakers representing every walk of life condemned the notion of a mosque being erected near the site of the former World Trade Center’s twin towers.

The Cordoba Initiative, headed by Imam Feisal Abdul Rauf, is the chief sponsor of the project that is to be called The Cordoba House, a name that refers to the city in Spain which, in the Middle Ages, was a center of Islamic culture and learning. Cordoba was also the seat of an Islamic caliphate in which Jews and Christians suffered under second-class dhimmi status and was the site of a large-scale pogrom, perpetrated by Muslims, in the year 1011.

The proposed mosque will be built at 45 Park Place, which is the site of a four story edifice built in 1857 and was a Burlington Coat retail store until 9/11, when part of the plane’s landing gear crashed through the roof. The building, which currently houses a mosque, will be razed to make room for the new structure. The New York City Landmarks Preservation Commission could conceivably thwart the intended project if they determine that the building has historic status. Elisabeth de Bourbon, a spokeswoman for the Landmarks Commission said a hearing is scheduled to take place on that very subject. New York City Mayor Mike Bloomberg has weighed in on the issue and has expressed support for the project.

Imam Rauf insists that the $150 million project is meant to heal the wounds of 9/11. “We’ve approached the community because we want this to be an example of how we are cooperating with the members of the community, not only to provide services but also to build a discourse on how Muslims and non-Muslims can cooperate together to push back against the voice of extremism,” he said.

Dr. Zuhdi Jasser, president of the American Islamic Forum for Democracy, says there are more productive ways to fight Islamic extremism and has questions about the financing. According to reports, the building that occupies the site was purchased last year for $4.85 million in cash by Soho Properties, a real estate company run by Muslims. Imam Rauf, who is also the founder of the American Society for Muslim Advancement was an investor in that transaction.

Dr. Jasser said that with such a financial commitment, there needs to be full disclosure about where the money is coming from. “There should be transparency about who those investors are; whether that money is coming from a domestic source or not, and if it’s coming from foreign interests we need to know, because I think that’s a liability, and it shows that there is another agenda rather than domestic security and tranquility,” he said.

Organized by such organizations as Stop the Islamization of America, Families of the 9/11 Victims, The New York City Firefighters, the Tea Party Activists of Brooklyn and Staten Island among other such groups, the rally goers stood in the scorching heat and listened to the impassioned words of the litany of speakers. “We’re not here today to condemn Muslims or Islam,” said Pamela Geller, executive director of Stop the Islamization of America, “but we are here today to condemn the kind of mosque that will teach the very same radical ideology that gave birth to the 9/11 attacks,” she intoned. “Building a mosque just several blocks away from Ground Zero is an insult and an affront to every single person that was killed on 9/11, to their families, to the first responders and every concerned American who cherishes liberty, democracy and freedom,” she continued.

“3000 pairs of eyes are looking down at us today,” declared James Lafferty of the Virginia Anti-Sharia Task Force who traveled to New York to speak at the rally. “We must stand together as a free people and tell the world that we will fight the imposition of Sharia law until our last breath. These evil, cowardly bastards who took the lives of those proud Americans on 9/11 will be remembered forever and this mosque which represents the triumph of Islamic fanaticism will not be built if we have anything to say,” he said. Mr. Lafferty received thunderous applause when he said, “The good people of the USA must also stand in solid unity with the Israel Defense Forces who are waging a war against Hamas terrorism as was evidenced several days ago when they intercepted a Turkish based flotilla of ships whose aim it was to break the Israeli blockade of Gaza. It is the IDF who is on the front lines in the battle against Islamic radicalism and we must support them.”

Dr. Babu Suseelan, a Hindu human rights activist, told the crowd,
“We Hindus and Sikhs have a story to tell. Islamists killed 80 million of us since 700 AD and they continue to kill us. They destroyed 3000 glorious temples and built mosques over them. In the last 60 years, Islamists in Pakistan wiped out infidel Hindu and Sikh populations. At one time we represented 25% of the population and now we are less that 1%. Know this: The 9/11 mosque is not a symbol of understanding. It is a symbol of conquest. Imam Rauf is a master of Taqiyya, which is the use of deception to forward the agenda of Islam. What Faisal Shahzad failed to accomplish in Times Square on May 1st with overt jihad, Imam Rauf will succeed with stealth jihad.”
“Not here! Not now!” was the resounding theme of the speech delivered by Jay Townsend, the GOP candidate of the US Senate from New York who will be challenging the incumbent Charles Schumer in the upcoming November elections. “The wounds have not healed, Imam,” he said. “And we cannot so soon forget. The hatred that spawned this assault on our sensibilities is still taught in too many of your mosques and inscribed into too many of your prayer rugs. Not here, not now, until you have excised the hatred that is inscribed in the school books of your impressionable young. Not here, not now, until you are willing to say that Israel has the right to exist, that the people of Israel have a right to a life absent of fear of a nuclear armed tyrant who denies the Holocaust,” he declared.

Robert Spencer, director of Jihad Watch, a program of the David Horowitz Freedom Center, and a co-organizer of the rally referenced a June 5th article in the New York Post that said, ”The imam behind a proposed mosque near Ground Zero is a prominent member of a group that helped sponsor the pro-Palestinian activists who clashed violently with Israeli commandos at sea this week. Imam Feisal Abdul Rauf is a key figure in Malaysian-based Perdana Global Peace Organization, according to its website. Perdana is the single biggest donor ($366,000) so far to the Free Gaza Movement, a key organizer of the six-ship flotilla that tried to break Israel’s blockade of the Hamas-run Gaza Strip Monday.”

Members of the Human Rights Coalition Against Radical Islam (HRCARI) also made their presence known at the rally through their visual depiction of the heinous murders committed by radical Islamists around the globe. “We are glad that the speakers here today drew a distinction between the Islamic faith and those who commit murder in the name of Allah. We work with Muslims and ex-Muslim dissidents who oppose the pernicious ideology of radical Islam and we are an inclusive alliance of people of all religions and nationalities who cherish freedom,” said Dr. Marvin Belsky, a retired internist....

Read it all> http://frontpagemag.com/2010/06/08/r...d-zero-mosque/
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i think the world should follow what INDIANS did in 1992 during babri demolition,particularly ISRAEL, what are people consider the most holiest sites for our respective religion....!!
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i think the world should follow what INDIANS did in 1992 during babri demolition,particularly ISRAEL, what are people consider the most holiest sites for our respective religion....!!
Nop, it was a huge mistake, we gave them a reason to justify their fears. Muslims in India, now have a reason to pick up arms. It was already there for nearly 500 years, so should have let it be there for 10 or 20 more. None of the Indian cities were bombed before the demolition. Indian Muslims were less sympathetic towards Pakistan.

Trust me, it had nothing to do with pride or religion, it was 100% pure, unadulterated politics.
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STOP THE MOSQUE Rally at Ground Zero a huge success!
ABC? NBC? CBS? CNN? Even FOX? AWOL.
And thanks to you Paparock, for giving us an update on the rally! I spent alot of time watching the news that June 6th, and hardly found any mention of it, and even less any coverage of it! I hope the next one, is an even bigger sucess, because the truth is, after it is built, it will become a symbol for muslims everywhere...might probably happen anyway....lets just hope a piece of space junk finds its way on this mega mosque!
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I really am speechless over this whole concept.

And with a mosque at ground zero, it won't be much longer until we alter the Statue of Liberty:



Who in their right mind in 1950 would ever have suggested a Shinto temple above the Arizona at Pearl Harbor ?

When it opens (11 Sep 2011 ?) I want that dufus of a president we currently have to dedicate it so that we can remember him for being the dhimmi that he is (which reminds me, bring Carter too).
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I really am speechless over this whole concept.

And with a mosque at ground zero, it won't be much longer until we alter the Statue of Liberty:



Who in their right mind in 1950 would ever have suggested a Shinto temple above the Arizona at Pearl Harbor ?

When it opens (11 Sep 2011 ?) I want that dufus of a president we currently have to dedicate it so that we can remember him for being the dhimmi that he is (which reminds me, bring Carter too).
You forgot to cover her arm man! Her modesty has been compromised!

Actually its worse, the Jihadists would just blow up the statue, a huge female standing tall and proud, and calling for liberty, and all that standing in the water? No way they could allow that! Just like they did to the Buddha statues in Afghanistan, they would demolish the Statue Of Liberty.
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You forgot to cover her arm man! Her modesty has been compromised!

Actually its worse, the Jihadists would just blow up the statue, a huge female standing tall and proud, and calling for liberty, and all that standing in the water? No way they could allow that! Just like they did to the Buddha statues in Afghanistan, they would demolish the Statue Of Liberty.
Actually, you bring up an interesting point.

How will a mosque in Manhattan alter the streetscape ? Will women in short dresses no longer be permitted on that section of sidewalk (heaven forbid !). How about dogs ? Street vendors selling non-halal products ? Will any other normal aspect of New York life no longer find a place here ?

One thing I did learn from my decade or so in Boston is that people really do care about the streetscape. Won't a mosque (a 13 storey mosque !) have enormous impact ? And how do people feel about the morning call to prayer going out over the graves of the 3000 ?

Sorry, I'm babbling.
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I really am speechless over this whole concept.

And with a mosque at ground zero, it won't be much longer until we alter the Statue of Liberty:



Who in their right mind in 1950 would ever have suggested a Shinto temple above the Arizona at Pearl Harbor ?

When it opens (11 Sep 2011 ?) I want that dufus of a president we currently have to dedicate it so that we can remember him for being the dhimmi that he is (which reminds me, bring Carter too).

I agree. No offense, but you don't have to compare these Sh*theads with the Japs. They didn't tried to bring down the Empire State Building, they attacked Pearl Harbor which was a Naval Port. Destroying your enemy's Navy is something else and blowing toddlers and their mothers to pieces is something else.
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I agree. No offense, but you don't have to compare these Sh*theads with the Japs. They didn't tried to bring down the Empire State Building, they attacked Pearl Harbor which was a Naval Port. Destroying your enemy's Navy is something else and blowing toddlers and their mothers to pieces is something else.
I dont think SpaceManSpiff was comparing the Japanese with the Muslim Mosque builders, not the Japanese of today anyway. He was giving an metaphorical idea, to make a point of why this mosque is so wrong. That it would be "like" Japanese asking to have a Shinto mosque built on Pearl Harbor, to better explain to folks out there, what makes this mosque so hurtful.

As far as the Japanese destroying their enemies is, well thats another subject all togther, if an enemy is that way because they impose an embargo againt a nation who has been an ally of the Nazis, and is invading other countries and raping their women and children like the Japanese did, reason America put an embargo on them, and caused the Japanese to attack Pearl Harbor, then the Japanese attack begins to resemble more of a terrorist attack, and besides, the word enemy is used by so many, we cant judge just by that.

Lets give another example, it would be like building a German Cultural Center in Auswitz at the Nazi Death Camps.
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to NEW RON sir....::SIR but it was also a matter of faith....babri was at a place of birth of our very god our religion......how can 1 leave with tht....yes ther ws lots of politics involved but after that even muslims in INDIA gt a taste of power of a HINDU.....
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to NEW RON sir....::SIR but it was also a matter of faith....babri was at a place of birth of our very god our religion......how can 1 leave with tht....yes ther ws lots of politics involved but after that even muslims in INDIA gt a taste of power of a HINDU.....
Yes I know alot about the Babri....when did I say anything different, lol?

I think you should be reffering to our friend blueblood not me......
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I dont think SpaceManSpiff was comparing the Japanese with the Muslim Mosque builders, not the Japanese of today anyway. He was giving an metaphorical idea, to make a point of why this mosque is so wrong. That it would be "like" Japanese asking to have a Shinto mosque built on Pearl Harbor, to better explain to folks out there, what makes this mosque so hurtful.

As far as the Japanese destroying their enemies is, well thats another subject all togther, if an enemy is that way because they impose an embargo againt a nation who has been an ally of the Nazis, and is invading other countries and raping their women and children like the Japanese did, reason America put an embargo on them, and caused the Japanese to attack Pearl Harbor, then the Japanese attack begins to resemble more of a terrorist attack, and besides, the word enemy is used by so many, we cant judge just by that.

Lets give another example, it would be like building a German Cultural Center in Auswitz at the Nazi Death Camps.
Sir, don't we all have our hands dirty, maybe not that much but yeah a little bit. I know this very well that its not easy to play this game by the book, but still we have tried.

The example you gave is better in the context as here we are talking about killing of innocent and unarmed civilians rather than attacking of a military facility.

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You forgot to cover her arm man! Her modesty has been compromised!

Actually its worse, the Jihadists would just blow up the statue, a huge female standing tall and proud, and calling for liberty, and all that standing in the water? No way they could allow that! Just like they did to the Buddha statues in Afghanistan, they would demolish the Statue Of Liberty.
Sir, you forgot about the tablet. It means that she is literate and know how to read, how dare she.


"The tablet can also imply the importance of being enlightened in order to receive the gift of knowledge and to pursue the passions residing within one's heart"
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Just to mention . . . of course I agree with you, New Ron, and you, blueblood, that 9/11 was much more evil than Pearl Harbor.

And thus we all agree that if a Shinto shrine on top of the Arizona was unthinkable, how much more unthinkable is a mosque at the site of the Trade Center.

By the way, good point blueblood about Liberty being literate.
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Sir, you forgot about the tablet. It means that she is literate and know how to read, how dare she.


"The tablet can also imply the importance of being enlightened in order to receive the gift of knowledge and to pursue the passions residing within one's heart"
She is just holding the book, doesnt mean she can read it, hehehe, ok bad joke, sorry.

Yes I agree.
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Arrow Keith Olbermann lies about SIOA freedom rally against Islamic supremacist mega-mosque

Keith Olbermann lies about SIOA freedom rally against Islamic supremacist mega-mosque



And Pamela Geller corrects him in this video.
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