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Trump disappoints Israel by not moving US Embassy to Jerusalem



June 1, 2017



US President Donald Trump has broken a key campaign promise that he would move the US embassy to Jerusalem, Israel’s capital.

With the clock ticking down before legislation enacted by Congress in 1995 would automatically transfer the American Embassy in Israel from Tel Aviv to Jerusalem, U.S. President Donald Trump on Thursday renewed a waiver postponing the move for a further six months, thus breaking one of his campaign promises that brought him to the White House in January.

“While President Donald J. Trump signed the waiver under the Jerusalem Embassy Act and delayed moving the U.S. Embassy in Israel from Tel Aviv to Jerusalem, no one should consider this step to be in any way a retreat from the President’s strong support for Israel and for the United States-Israel alliance,” the White House said in a statement June 1.

“President Trump made this decision to maximize the chances of successfully negotiating a deal between Israel and the Palestinians,” the statement continued. “But, as he has repeatedly stated his intention to move the embassy, the question is not if that move happens, but only when.”


Trump still claims to support moving the embassy, but wrote in a memorandum to Congress that “it is necessary, in order to protect the national security interests of the United States, to suspend for a period of six months the limitations set forth” in the 1995 law.

According to a White House statement, Trump still plans to move the embassy and “the question is not if that move happens, but only when.”


During his visit to the Middle East last month, Trump avoided reaffirming his support for relocating the U.S. embassy. While such a decision could be implemented simply by changing the brass plaque on the historic U.S. Consulate on Agron Street in western Jerusalem, Trump understood that the act – however limited – would likely outrage America’s other key Middle East ally, Saudi Arabia, where he also visited during his state tour.


Netanyahu: ‘Israel is Disappointed’

[B]Israel’s consistent position is that the American embassy, like the embassies of all countries with whom we have diplomatic relations, should be in Jerusalem, our eternal capital, Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu said in a statement. “Maintaining embassies outside the capital drives peace further away by helping keep alive the Palestinian fantasy that the Jewish people and the Jewish state have no connection to Jerusalem.”

“Though Israel is disappointed that the embassy will not move at this time, we appreciate today’s expression of President Trump’s friendship to Israel and his commitment to moving the embassy in the future,” the statement concluded.

David Friedman, whom Trump recently appointed as the U.S. ambassador to Israel, also favors relocating the embassy to Jerusalem. Friedman said in a statement last year that he looked forward to serving in the post “from the U.S. Embassy in Israel’s eternal capital, Jerusalem.
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“I regret President Trump’s decision to sign the waiver but am certain that he will keep his word and bring the US embassy to its rightful place – Jerusalem, the capital of Israel. I will continue to provide assistance to the US administration and do all I can to ensure that the relocation happens as soon as possible,” Jerusalem Mayor Nir Barkat said.

Trump will have to revisit the question of signing the waiver again no later than December 1, 2017.

By Gil Zohar, World Israel News


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Mickey Oberman • 7 hours ago
Early this morning I sent this posting.

I am Jewish. I am far from orthodox. I supported candidate Trump for president long before he became a candidate. I believed in him.
I am a Canadian but I did convince two American friends to support and vote for Candidate Trump.
Today, 1 June 2017, President Trump will be expected to keep his promise to me and millions like me and many more millions of non Jews the world over.
Millions of his supporters believed him and rely upon him not to be like Hillary Clinton. We will react very strongly to being used and then betrayed.
Mister Trump would forfeit any right to expect future cooperation or support from us, those who were stabbed in the back by a yet another lying politician.
His dreams of being a peacemaker would vanish in an instant as would any possibility of a future reelection.

Please do not construe this as a threat. It is not.
It is a statement of facts and promises that wi9ll be kept.
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I have just received the news that Trump signed the waiver.
He lied to me and millions of other people who trusted him.
He betrayed all of us. He used us to get elected to office.
He also betrayed his office and his country.
Nothing he has said or will say can ever again be trusted.

I would like to tell him where to go but that would probably get me barred.
Mickey Oberman


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Yidith Mickey Oberman • 5 hours ago
Thank you for expressing my feelings exactly!!
100% same conclusions too.

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Edward B. Levy Yidith • 5 hours ago
I also support the comments of Mr. Oberman. Pres Trump, now has his wadders on as he has joined the others in the swamp, with this newest excuse. You had my vote Mr. President, But if you fail on this issue, I will go Dem on every office coming in 2018 and beyond. Another promise you made is the refugee stop, well now, your State Dept has again opened the door. I took a hit on SS with a cut, a 22% increase in BC/BS supplemental. Well it looks like the corrupt media & Dems WIN!
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militaryjunkie Edward B. Levy • an hour ago
Think about what you are saying, check the facts, understand why intentions can change with more info, look at what Trump has accomplished, look at what prevented him from succeeding with some promises, then if you still want to flush the country down the toilet go ahead!
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Mark Rodgers militaryjunkie • 29 minutes ago
Nothing has he accomplished but trying to kill elderly and young disabled Americans and turning his back on friends. Oh and selling hundreds of billions in weapons to terrorists.
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Killing Independent George militaryjunkie • an hour ago
Exactly militaryjunkie. It's not over till the Fat Lady sings.
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allioops Edward B. Levy • 2 hours ago
i guess the "Liberal" media is NOT Corrupt! We Liberals said it all along. Once a thief & a liar, always a thief and a Liar!
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pacman allioops • an hour ago
Many of us voted for trump because the beast's history proved she as toxic.Trump was a question mark. He leaves us, and Israel, no worse off than it would have been under "what does it matter" clinton. he's giving the palies a chance to make good. Don't gloat yet schmuck.
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finaly had enough pacman • an hour ago
Hear, hear,,,
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militaryjunkie allioops • an hour ago
so easy to turn your head! The lib media isn't corrupt? Obviously you are led around unable to see the truth on your own, totally manipulable, and a puppet for the best best manipulators!
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Rob allioops • 2 hours ago
You don't have to be liberal to know Trump was a chronic liar, you just need not be as naive as a child.
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Peter Cohen Mickey Oberman • an hour ago
That's your problem. You conflate Trump with Brian Mulroney and Stephen Harper.
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imiss toronto Mickey Oberman • 14 minutes ago
Mickey, you said you're Canadian. I am too. You must be old enough to remember that we went through this with Joe Clark in the 80's. He promised the same thing, and it did not happen. I am no Conservative supporter, but I remember thinking that it would be nice to see, but let's see what happens. It didn't, I wasn't surprised and the reasons why Joe Clark didn't do it are the same reasons why Trump did not do it either.

Although with Clark I would chalk it up to youthful exuberance and good intentions, Trump is an out and out liar, a sheyster from WAY back, and has no business or personal ethics. Why you thought he would EVER deliver is totally lost on me.
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allioops Mickey Oberman • 2 hours ago
i told you all!!!!! Please be aware that a "man" that does not help the unfortunate around us will never be a mensch. Drumpf is a bigoted evil manipulative dishonest misogynist. He respects nothing but $$$$
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militaryjunkie allioops • an hour ago
you are hilarious! Maybe stupid, but definitely hilarious!
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Gea • 7 hours ago
This is first major error that Trump had committed after moving into WH! He should move US embassy immediately as he promised, rather then giving Muslims more hope that they are successful in their jihad against the Western civilization by black mailing the world.

Why did Trump change his mind about moving US Embassy to Jerusalem, the capital of Israel? Are some dumb American Jews cowards as they were during WWII and are worried about leftists and Muslims antisemitism if trump supports the ONLY Jewish majority state, which puts up with 23% of Muslims (a fifth column), while 56 corrupt, dysfunctional and overpopulated Muslims occupied states had ethnically cleansed Jews when Israel proclaimed independence in 1948, just as now Muslims are ethnically cleansing Christians in their midst..

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KKRDB Gea • 7 hours ago
Errors among errors tgoo many to be frank.

When he said it i had my suspitions am no fool falling for it .
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Mickey Oberman KKRDB • 5 hours ago
It just proves what a lousy judge of character I am.
I fell for his words hook line and sinker.
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allioops Mickey Oberman • 2 hours ago
At least you have the bravery and honesty to admit it. I salute you and wish you the best judgement in all things from now on. Thank you Sir!
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pacman Gea • an hour ago
No, it's the 2d. The first was his speech to the the leaders of 50 muslim nations.
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Rob Gea • 2 hours ago
What do you mean the "first major error"?

Trump's entire presidency has be a disaster since day one.
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debbieakbar • 6 hours ago
Actually it makes more sense to move the embassy right now on the heels of the recent commitment to send arms to Saudi Arabia so as to keep the pressure on the Saudis to remain silent.
Every year every Jew should google the Yom Kippir war in 1970 to appreciate how close Israel came to being defeated, and how it lost a third of its air force in the Sinai due to soviet missiles, and how it lost almost a hundred tanks due to the new anti tank weapons also supplied by the Soviets. On top of the greatest casualty count ever suffered Saudi Arabia sent troops to help Syria, as did Iraq (tanks) and even Morocco.
What was the lesson learned if any? If Trump waIts until Saudi Arabia is armed to the teeth with US weapons and technology including air and missiles it may be too late to exercise any leverage for as far as Saudi Arabia their interests do not include Israel. They include only their self preservation and they will side with the rest of the Arabs once again as they did in the past if the US waits until the arms deal is completed.
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Mickey Oberman debbieakbar • 5 hours ago
I trust you are referring to Israel's Six Day War.
Now tell us about the enormous losses of Syria, Jordan, Morocco, Lebanon and Egypt who, together, outnumbered Israel by something like 7 to one by Egypt, Syria and Iraq and and air power from the Arab air forces were aided by volunteer pilots from the Pakistan Air Force acting in an independent capacity, and by some aircraft from Libya, Algeria, Morocco, Kuwait, and Saudi Arabia to make up for the massive losses suffered on the first day of the war.
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debbieakbar Mickey Oberman • an hour ago
Hell no I am talking about the 1970 Yom Kippur war that Israel almost LOST!!! Why, because Israel was living in the daydream of being undefeatable since the miracle of the 1967 six day war.
And it is doing the same thing today! There are too many Israelis who think they are smart than there are those who are and it is those who still believe in the myth of invincibility.
Only after the six day war did Israel achieve defensible borders that were realistically defensible for about ten years. No longer today!
Just like Golda Meir who made a huge mistake that cost two thousand Jewish lives when she ignored the Egyptian buildup in the Sinai Israel today is ignoring Hamas and Hezbollah and Iran who thanks to Putin are not the idiots with toys r us missiles that Israel was dealing with in 67. Egypt and Saudi Arabia are NOT Israel's bosom buddies. They wanted us dead in 1970. Dead! Sadat was killed for a reason. The same thing could happen to Sissi any day now. Ditto with the Saudi Royals whose armies are soon to be armed to the teeth with no delay by Trump.
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Jeffrey Wilens debbieakbar • 12 minutes ago
The Yom Kippur War was in 1973.
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Aimee Harper • 7 hours ago
The Saudis, who should NOT have been first on Pres. Trump's tour, offered him a huge deal (supposedly to the benefit of American businesses, but arming Saudi Arabia with our tech, much of which is shared with other, non-muslim, allies is a case of creating a so-called balance of power with Iran. If they were to destroy each other this might be excusable. But Muslims fight their common for first, then turn on one another), and paraded him and his (in any other circumstances) illegally present Jewish Son-in-law around, dazzling him with the wealth of this world. They gave him a "medal" of garish proportions, which President's past also received. It is no coincidence that the list includes Pres. Carter (not Reagan, not Bush the elder), Clinton (but not George W. Bush), Obama and now Trump. He seems to think making peace is like making a deal on "reality" TV.
Perhaps there are good and valid reasons for his (non) actions, or perhaps the whole thing was camouflage, tin foil in the radar. Maybe Trump and PM Netanyahu have decided to make it appear that we're not as "buddy-buddy" with each other as most of the world believes, or fears.
Trump has not been in the political arena long enough for me to predict his real goal in all of this, but if showering him with gold and smarmy words is all it takes to change his mind, things are worse than even I thought. I didn't vote for either major party candidate, because I could not find any convincing evidence in either case that a presidency from either of them would be anything other than a disaster. I was happy to initially be proved wrong about President Trump's goals, but now the whirlwind has subsided...it seems he's learned very quickly how to be a politician, to the detriment of our Country and the disappointment of his fervent supporters. God help us all, because I'm not sure anyone else ca
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MARVIN • 9 hours ago
Trump didn't move the embassy to maximize the peace process between Israel and the pals. What a lame excuse. The pukestinians now smell blood in the water and will probably increase their terror. I sent the pres. an email telling him that I was disappointed with this decision. I told him that because of his broken promise that I would vote for another Republican in 2020 , if one runs. I'll never vote for a democrat.

The email address is: president@whitehouse.gov, if anyone is interested.
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Beebee MARVIN • 7 hours ago
I believe the President is in tune with God's plans..I believe there is a reason beyond our understanding but there is True Wisdom behind this decision...AND I am a Jewish woman who Loves Israel!!
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KKRDB Beebee • 7 hours ago
Bull ...he is delaying without any reason.

I feel disgusted,,in any case I never believed he woud do it.

excuses,excuses.
Am off had enough with it.
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Fear_less KKRDB • 7 hours ago
So if you did not believe Trump would do it, then, it is not happening.
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Yidith Beebee • 2 hours ago
Visit Lala Land often do you?
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James Yidith • 17 minutes ago
How cruel of you, such an insult is not deserved. All of you who think you have Pres. Trump pegged as a liar are guilty of judging a book by it's cover. and in your cases; in the dark. You have no idea why he choose not to move the Embassy there at this time, but let me remind you. If America moves an embassy to Jerusalem; by your consent, you have just given away a piece of the Precious city!
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Mickey Oberman Yidith • 2 hours ago
If only it were Lalaby.
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James Beebee • 12 minutes ago
While there are plenty of nay sayers who have responded to your post, what they fail to realize is that by giving America a piece of Jerusalem for the Embassy, they have given away a part of something which is the apple of YaH's eyes! Perhaps this is part of the reason that Pres. Trump has not moved yet, or perhaps, it is not in The Almighty One's will for this to happen YET!
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Mickey Oberman Beebee • 2 hours ago
Your god presumably created us.
He made a grave error by giving each of us a curious, thinking, functioning brain that thrives on constant use.

"I believe the President is in tune with God's plans."
What key is he whistling in b flat?
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allioops Beebee • 2 hours ago
Bologna
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MARVIN Beebee • 4 hours ago
I truly hope you are right.
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James MARVIN • 22 minutes ago
Marvin; The Jewish nation needs to be more patient and remember, this is not a politician they are dealing with, and it certainly is not one of the lying; conniving, socialist liberals they have had to deal with in the past.
Proof is in the recent pullout of the "Global{ist} Climate Change "accord". This is what he promised the American people and he delivered.
While I am not so naive as to believe there will be any thing resembling peace with the Palestinian nation; or any other Islamic nation for that matter,I can understand his hesitation at this precarious time.
Just remember; Pres. Trump has accomplished more and went further to make America Great again, than any other Pres. in modern history, and I highly doubt that a Repub.. especially an "establishment" elitist could or would have done so much.
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Mickey Oberman MARVIN • 2 hours ago
Thank you, Marvin.

I sent my posting to him.
I doubt that it will get read though.
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MARVIN Mickey Oberman • 34 minutes ago
Sorry, yahoo said my email was not deliverable. The internet also gave me another address: comments@whitehouse.gov. Hopefully this will work.
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GI Joe • 2 hours ago
I believe President Trump will, ultimately, order the relocation of the US Embassy to Israel from Tel Aviv to Jerusalem. I would have preferred that he not delay the relocation, but I have faith that it will happen. Perhaps later this year, perhaps next year. But it will happen.
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pacman GI Joe • an hour ago
At first I had a meltdown but let's see what happens in 6 months.
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allioops GI Joe • 2 hours ago
do not hold your breath. Drumpf only cares about power & money for him $ his cronies
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GI Joe allioops • an hour ago
You have made your bias clear. I completely disagree with your allegations. If you can somehow substantiate them, I would be interested in seeing any evidence you may have.
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bob • 4 hours ago
I am taking another view on this. and perhaps giving Trump to much credit, but I think the "stall" is well advised. , but seems he discovered he has been lied to.
SO, In all discussions for peace, I would certainly state unequivocally that, by the time the next waiver is due, if there is not definite movement, signed treaties, etc. and agreement, (one being to change the Palestinian charter relative to the existence of Israel) the embassy will be moved. Trump the negotiator!!??? He usually has the hammer...now this is another obvious one. Let's see how good he is. And how truthful.
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Joseph • 6 hours ago
Perhaps President Trump was scared by Mahmoud Abbas?
Anyway, it now has a common point with Obama...!
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GI Joe Joseph • 2 hours ago
Not exactly. Obama would not say that Jerusalem was the capitol of Israel. At least President Trump has acknowledge that fact. And I think he will, ultimately, order the relocation of the Embassy to Jerusalem, too. It just will take longer than most would prefer.
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Barbara Ellison GI Joe • 27 minutes ago
Only time will tell...
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Barbara Ellison Joseph • 29 minutes ago
I don't know...All I know is that a lot of elder Jews will fade away within the next 6 months and not be able to see Jerusalem officially recognized as belonging to Israel ONLY. And more innocent Jews will be murdered because ABBAS believes (correctly?) that Donald Trump is on their side and believes they have as much claim to Jerusalem as Jews do...I hope I MYSELF live long enough to see America officially recognize Jerusalem as capital of Israel...but dare not hold my breath while waiting and hoping. :(
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BOTOSANI123 . • 7 hours ago
Why have all the poster any right to an opinion on Israel,move to Israel send your children to serve in the IDF and after that you can mutter any think you want,i am a Israeli and think that Trump has too to wait and see watt the other Muslim states do after the conference in Riad.
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Helene Moeck • an hour ago
I am a Christian who is disappointed for Israel!
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MARVIN • 2 hours ago
Earlier I posted an email address for the pres. It didn't work. Yahoo said it was un-deliverable. I just tried comments@whitehouse.gov. If anyone has an email address for the whitehouse please post it.
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bvwredux • 2 hours ago
This is my stance, my personal take on the matter of states and humanity:

One go 'round is okay for the new regime. Although it appears from experience to be a forlorn conclusion, the leaders of this so called "Palestine" must have a chance to make peace, under Israel's terms first-most, secondly as to America's concerns. That all as Trump and Netanyahu agree to. Do not make Israel suffer more.

"When you come towards a settled place to subdue it, then [first] proclaim peace unto it. And it shall be, if [the leaders of that place] make to you an answer of peace, and open it to you, then [peace] shall be, except that all the people found therein shall accept your rule, accept your taxes, and shall serve you. But if it will make no peace with you, but will make war against you, then you must besiege it. ..."

Their bar must be kept high, accept nothing but full submission.
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Texas_Swede • 2 hours ago
I am very disappointed in President Trump and will never vote for him or anybody else as all politicians are liars. He should stay out of the Israel's business as regards their relationship with the Muslims. Trump is exactly like Clinton, Bush and Obama, i.e. delay taking responsibility for the implementation of a law congress already passed.
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jjohnjoni Texas_Swede • an hour ago
Hang in there Swede! It is signed for 6 months.
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Messianic Fuzz • 3 hours ago
Trump has betrayed God's word by empowering the global UN lie that denies Israel's right to exist. He just affirmed UN Resolution 2334 and all other resolutions that are related to it. Genesis 12:3 should not be taken lightly.
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Peter Cohen • an hour ago
The Shtetl Jews still cling to Trump like parasites, hoping for any minute sign that he likes Israel. This is obsessive and unhealthy, just like the Obama-obsessed Jews. Get it through your heads: Trump doesn't care for Israel, he has no empathy no natural feeling for the nation. He cares about his money in the Gulf more than he cares about Jews, like his son-in-law, who is just as much a liar as Trump. In this respect, Trump is closer to Obama in foreign policy than he is closer to Bill Clinton who was reliably and consistently pro-Israel. Trump is a mentally-deformed clown.
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Rob • 2 hours ago
I cannot tell you how many people I argued with over this issue. Trump is an unreliable sociopath who will tell you anything you want to hear.
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bvwredux Rob • 2 hours ago
Trump is reliable. A stand-up man. An Adon. Truly, as his name "Donald", the elder Don, suggests. I will vouch for that, fwtw.
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jjohnjoni bvwredux • an hour ago
It says six months right?
Let's not get our panties in a Wad.
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bvwredux jjohnjoni • an hour ago
jjohnjoni: You wanna talk like a tough guy, but you gotta graduate from fourth grade first. Now take you older sister's ones off your own head.
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Pro-Israel Groups in US Express Disappointment Over Trump’s Decision to Delay Potential Move of Embassy to Jerusalem

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A number of pro-Israel groups in the US have expressed disappointment over President Donald Trump’s decision to sign a waiver on Thursday that delayed the potential move of the American Embassy in Tel Aviv to Jerusalem by at least another six months.

“We are certain that the Trump administration is very well aware that no Israeli prime minister will ever cede sovereignty over Jerusalem,” Rabbis Marvin Hier and Abraham Cooper — the dean and associate dean of the Simon Wiesenthal Center — stated. “The city is and will remain the undivided capital of Israel.”


“Next week’s 50th anniversary of the reunification of the city during the June 1967 Six-Day War marks a half-century of full access to holy sites of all faiths in the Old City, a fact that should be acknowledged and celebrated by religious leaders of all Abrahamic faiths,” they continued.


Christians United for Israel (CUFI) issued a statement with similar sentiments, saying, “The president knows that Jerusalem is the eternal and undivided capital of Israel and we strongly believe that the location of our embassy should reflect that reality.” CUFI noted it remained “hopeful” Trump would ultimately “fulfill his campaign pledge” and relocate the embassy to Jerusalem.

Conference of Presidents of Major American Jewish Organizations Chairman Stephen M. Greenberg and Executive Vice Chairman and CEO Malcolm Hoenlein stated, “Moving the embassy to Israel’s declared capital would rectify a historic wrong, and would not prejudge the outcome of negotiations as it would be located in western Jerusalem, universally recognized as part of Israel. We hope that, as indicated in the announcement of the waiver, this decision will be reviewed in the coming months.”


Morton A. Klein — the president of the Zionist Organization of America (ZOA) — said the signing of the waiver “rewards terrorist threats and damages peace prospects.” Klein urged Trump to “commit to a prompt, firm deadline” for moving the embassy.

Senator Charles Schumer of New York — the Democratic minority leader — stated he believed Jerusalem was the “undivided capital of Israel” and asked, “Will those who criticized [former] President [Barack] Obama for not moving the embassy make their voices just as loud and just as strong when it comes to President Trump’s failure to move the embassy?”

Meanwhile, Jerusalem Mayor Nir Barkat said, “I regret President Trump’s decision to sign the waiver but am certain that he will keep his word and bring the US embassy to its rightful place — Jerusalem, the capital of Israel. I will continue to provide assistance to the US administration and do all I can to ensure that the relocation happens as soon as possible.”

Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu’s office also commented on Trump’s action, saying, “Israel’s consistent position is that the American embassy, like the embassies of all countries with whom we have diplomatic relations, should be in Jerusalem, our eternal capital.”

“Maintaining embassies outside the capital drives peace further away by helping keep alive the Palestinian fantasy that the Jewish people and the Jewish state have no connection to Jerusalem,” the statement continued. “Though Israel is disappointed that the embassy will not move at this time, we appreciate today’s expression of President Trump’s friendship to Israel and his commitment to moving the embassy in the future.”



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