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The Burmese army continues to step up abuses in northern Kachin state, including raping, killing and torturing villagers, despite signing a tentative ceasefire with ethnic rebels, activists say.

According to new research by the Kachin Women’s Association of Thailand (KWAT), government troops raided Nhka Ga village, near Putao, in northern Kachin, on 16 September, killing three men, torturing 10 others and raping a young mother.

The attack was “directly linked” to securing control of a region that is rich in natural resources including timber and minerals, says the group. Nhka Ga village lies along a new China-built road leading to an area slated for development by billionaire crony Tay Za.

The allegations follow weeks of fighting in southern Kachin and northern Shan state. Violence flared in Mansi township in Bhamo less than a week after rebel and government negotiators reached a fresh peace deal in Myitkyina, where they agreed to reduce fighting.

The Kachin Independence Organisation (KIO) blamed government forces for provoking the hostilities, which claimed the life of a child and displaced over 1,000 villagers.

KWAT claims that around 400 villagers were also detained in a village church, while a 76-year-old woman was killed. The fighting is taking place along the strategic Kaihtik-Bhamo road.

“Between each round of peace talks, the Burmese government is seizing new strategic sites and expanding its military into Kachin areas,” said Jessica Nhkum, KWAT joint secretary. “How can we believe that this process will lead to peace?”

According to a report by the Kachin News Group, rebels were forced to abandon another outpost in Kyaukme township in Shan state on Wednesday following an offensive from the Burmese army.

The Kachin Independence Army – the KIO’s armed wing – says the fighting broke out when government troops attacked the post using heavy artillery.

Armed ethnic groups are currently meeting at the KIO’s headquarters in Laiza to discuss a government proposal to sign a nationwide ceasefire in November. The KIO is the only major armed group that has not signed a formal ceasefire with the government and has not yet indicated whether they will participate in a nationwide agreement.

The KIO, which has been fighting the government for greater autonomy and ethnic rights since a 17-year ceasefire broke down in June 2011, has repeatedly called for political dialogue as a precursor to peace. The rebels also want government forces to withdraw it troops from their territories.

President Thein Sein has received international acclaim for his efforts to resolve decades of civil conflicts in the former military dictatorship, securing an end to years of crippling economic sanctions against Burma.

Last week the UN expressed “serious concern” for the 100,000 civilians who have been ripped from their homes during the conflict.
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The Restoration Council of the Shan State (RCSS) has released a statement saying the group will only make a decision on the signing of a nationwide ceasefire agreement after it sees the results of the upcoming meeting between more than a dozen ethnic armed groups and a Burmese government delegation scheduled to be held next month in Karen state capital Hpa-an.

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MYANMAR: The war with the Kachins continues – Amidst talks of a Nationwide Ceasefire

Paper No. 5690 Dated 25-Apr-2014
By C. S. Kuppuswamy
(This paper may please be read in conjunction with the following papers of this author posted on this site earlier Paper no. 5132 dated 23 July 2012 “MYANMAR: the War with the Kachins – One year on”
Paper No. 5357 dated 11 January 2013 “MYANMAR: The war with the Kachins – An Update” http://www.southasiaanalysis.org/node/1125)
Introduction
The Kachin Independence Army (KIA) was formed in 1957 to fight for an independent Kachin state. The political wing of the KIA called the Kachin Independence Organisation (KIO) was formed in 1960. The KIA is the second largest armed ethnic group in Myanmar with about 8000 troops.
After a protracted struggle since 1961 the KIA gave up its demand for independence and entered into a ceasefire with the military Government in 1994 with the hope of achieving at least some limited state autonomy which has also not materialised till date.
The ceasefire collapsed in June 2011 when the Myanmar armed forces attacked the area around Momauk Township (under the control of KIA Brigade-3) presumably to protect the hydro-electric dams under construction in this area with Chinese help. Since then there have been periodical clashes between the government troops and the KIA, both putting the blame on the other party for the offensives.
Many rounds of talks between the KIO and the Myanmar peace making committee have taken place for a ceasefire. Though a tacit agreement has been entered into in October 2013, it is not being considered as a ceasefire agreement by the KIA.
The quasi-civilian government that come to power in March 2011 has entered into fresh ceasefire agreements with 16 of the 18 major armed groups between 2011 and 2012. The KIA and Ta’ang National Liberation Army are the only two major ethnic army groups that have not entered into a ceasefire with the present government.
Meanwhile the government is making a major effort to have a nationwide ceasefire by August 2014 and has formed a 18-member joint committee (with 9 from ethnic groups) which has been entrusted with the task of finalising the draft.
Escalation
Between December 2012 and early January 2013 jet fighters and helicopter gun ships were used by the government forces to bombard the areas held by the Kachins and to provide close support to the ground troops. The Myanmar army was also reported to have used 105 mm howitzers and 120 mm mortars. The KIA lost some of its strategic strongholds near Lajayang and Laiza (KIA HQ).
During this war two army helicopters and possibly one aircraft were shot down by the KIA according to a recent report of IHS Jane’s Defence. “According to statistics on pro-government military blog sites, between June 2011 and the beginning of the Laiza campaign in mid-December 2012, at least 5,000 Tatmadaw troops died in Kachin state. The Laiza campaign and smaller operations since then will have added several hundred fatalities to that toll,” the magazine said” (The Irrawaddy- March 24, 2014).
Recent Clashes
The article “Why conflict continues in Kachin State” published by the Eleven Media Group (21 April 2014) gives full details of the recent clashes.
  • On April 4 a major who had strayed into the KIA controlled territory was shot dead. After the major was killed, the Myanmar Army announced that it was launching operation to gain effective control of the Manweinggyi-Kaunghmuyan route. The reason was to preserve the state resources and to protect the livelihood of villagers in those areas.
  • Fighting erupted again in Kachin State between September 2013 to March 2014. The ministry of Defence said in an announcement in April 19 that the army was taking action against timber smugglers on routes between Mansi-Moemauk, Simbo-Bhamo and Simbo-Manpi.
  • On April 10 Myanmar Army troops from Military Operation Command 16, Division 88 conducted multiple attacks against KIA 3rd Brigade regiments. Clashes also occurred in Nantknan in northern Shan State where KIA 4th Brigade, 9th Regiment is situated.
  • On April 12, government forces seized Bankhan border gate between Manwainggyi and Nanttaung where KIA bases are located.
  • After the clashes, government forces have gained control of the Mansi- Pankham – Manwainggyi route including one of the China-Myanmar border gates.
  • On April 16 Monghsat Kaung Camp which is one of the main camps for KIA Brigade No 4, Regiment No 1 was captured.
  • As a result (of the recent clashes) the army is now in control of the Bhamo-Moemauk-Seinlon-Lwejal route.
Myanmar Armed Forces
Ye Htut, the presidential spokesman while talking to The Irrawaddy (22 April, 2014) on the fighting in Kachin areas said “The Tatmadaw only fights to defend itself, and they have been instructed not to attack first. It is important to stop the secret shooting of our troops, which was responsible for the killing of one of our majors.” He also accused the KIA of violating the ceasefire agreement during the recent surge in fighting, which has left 22 soldiers dead and 5000 people displaced.
  • Despite professing that the military is involved only in defensive operations, the strategy adopted by the Tatmadaw seems to be on the following lines:
  • Take control of all main lines of communications near the rebel held areas for moving of men and material to the forward posts without interruption from the rebels.
  • Take control and strengthening of strategic posts close to rebel held areas to monitor the rebel movements, to surround them and to prevent them from enlarging the areas under their control.
  • Keep the war alive with sporadic clashes and thereby displacing the civil population which is already disenchanted with the KIA in not arriving at an amicable settlement with the Government.
  • Break the will of the KIA to fight as it is the only major group resisting to sign the ceasefire as well as to weaken them considerably before agreeing for negotiations under the terms dictated by the military.
The KIA/KIO
The KIA/KIO wants a commitment from the government for a political dialogue before ceasefire while the government wants the ceasefire as a precondition for political dialogue without even indicating a time frame or framework for such a dialogue.
The KIA has also refuted the allegations that it has initiated offensive actions or involved in killing of army personnel by ambushes or by attacks. The KIA has said that mostly it has been in retaliation for Tatmadaw’s actions.
The army has also taken the pretext of getting engaged in clashes with the KIA while they are raiding illegal loggers. KIA has denied giving protection to illegal loggers. General Gun Maw of the KIA clarified in an interview that “there are people who benefit from this trade in the KIA and the government”.
The KIA is also under pressure from China to agree to a ceasefire, as it is more interested in stability on its border, border trade and its economic interests in Myanmar. Besides the army offensives in the Kachin area results in displaced persons moving into its territory.
The KIA’s keenness in signing a nationwide ceasefire is evidenced by the fact it has hosted the meeting of 17 armed ethnic groups at Laiza (The KIO HQ) from 30 October to 02 November 2013. The KIA is also a member of the Nationwide Ceasefire Coordination Team created at this meeting for further talks with the Government.
Gen Gun Maw, the Deputy Commander-in-Chief of the KIA visited USA in the third week of April 2014 seeking US support for the peace process. In an interview to Reuters in Washington he said "At present, we are still asking the US to be involved. Whether they will be, we don't know yet."
News Analysis
The Tatmadaw could have very well launched a major offensive against the Kachins but for two restraining factors:
  • It will jeopardise the ongoing peace process
  • As some strongholds of the Kachins are in close proximity to the Chinese border, the effects of such an offensive will spill over to Chinese territory as it happened during the offensive in December 2012 – January 2013.
The Tatmadaw’s support for and involvement in the peace process indicates that it wants to ensure its interests are looked after and its predominance (if not supremacy) is maintained.
With the nation’s past history of failed ceasefires, the distrust of the KIA/KIO for the Bamar – predominant government machinery is understandable.
The government would not like US to be involved in the peace process (as suggested by KIA) as it may entail in China as well as some other nations getting involved in this process.
The distrust of the ethnic groups compounded with the aggressive posture of the armed forces is likely to further delay the peace process.
The KIA may be constrained to come to an amicable settlement with all its apprehensions as it is losing time and also undergoing a process of attrition with these regular offensives of the government forces.
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(CNN)Meetings between the foreign ministries of Indonesia, Thailand and Malaysia are taking place Wednesday in an effort to ward off a looming humanitarian disaster. Thousands of Rohingya migrants remain stranded in the Andaman Sea, while authorities around the region refuse to take them in.

The scale of the crisis is still unknown. No organization, from the UNHCR and the International Organization for Migration (IOM) to Rohingya rights groups, knows how many boats there are. The number of migrants stranded aboard these ships, however, is estimated to be in the thousands.

Despite a plea from U.N. Secretary General Ban Ki-moon, urging Southeast Asian leaders to uphold "international law" and "the obligation of rescue at sea," Malaysia, Thailand and Indonesia are currently refusing to accept the "boat people" -- men, women and children who remain on ships, with rapidly dwindling provisions.

Thailand supplied them with food and water in the middle of last week, the last confirmed resupply.

CNN understands that the ships, which remain at sea, are trying to elude patrols and the refugees are effectively being held prisoner by their smugglers. Official sources, who have requested not to be named, say the smugglers may be telling people they can only accept landing rights in Malaysia as the smugglers are possibly Thai and wish to avoid what has become a very high-profile issue.

Thailand will host a regional conference on May 29, where the issue will be high up on the agenda.

More immediately, Malaysia will play host to three-way meetings Wednesday between the foreign ministers of Indonesia, Malaysia and Thailand. Despite its pivotal role in the crisis, the Myanmar government will not send a representative.

Meanwhile, the U.S. has said that while the humanitarian disaster at sea is the most pressing concern, a State Department official tells CNN the fundamental issue lies in Myanmar.

Assistant Secretary of State for Democracy, Human Rights and Labor, Tom Malinowski, told CNN's Hala Gorani that the U.S. has offered assistance and is urging the governments of Thailand, Malaysia and Indonesia to work together to conduct search and rescue missions, and to allow the refugees to land.

"Our first responsibility is to save lives and that is something that has to be done in the coming days and hours. In the longer run, the biggest challenge is to get at the root cause of this crisis, the treatment of the Rohingya population inside Myanmar."

(CNN)Meetings between the foreign ministries of Indonesia, Thailand and Malaysia are taking place Wednesday in an effort to ward off a looming humanitarian disaster. Thousands of Rohingya migrants remain stranded in the Andaman Sea, while authorities around the region refuse to take them in.

The scale of the crisis is still unknown. No organization, from the UNHCR and the International Organization for Migration (IOM) to Rohingya rights groups, knows how many boats there are. The number of migrants stranded aboard these ships, however, is estimated to be in the thousands.

Despite a plea from U.N. Secretary General Ban Ki-moon, urging Southeast Asian leaders to uphold "international law" and "the obligation of rescue at sea," Malaysia, Thailand and Indonesia are currently refusing to accept the "boat people" -- men, women and children who remain on ships, with rapidly dwindling provisions.

Thailand supplied them with food and water in the middle of last week, the last confirmed resupply.

CNN understands that the ships, which remain at sea, are trying to elude patrols and the refugees are effectively being held prisoner by their smugglers. Official sources, who have requested not to be named, say the smugglers may be telling people they can only accept landing rights in Malaysia as the smugglers are possibly Thai and wish to avoid what has become a very high-profile issue.

Thailand will host a regional conference on May 29, where the issue will be high up on the agenda.

More immediately, Malaysia will play host to three-way meetings Wednesday between the foreign ministers of Indonesia, Malaysia and Thailand. Despite its pivotal role in the crisis, the Myanmar government will not send a representative.

Meanwhile, the U.S. has said that while the humanitarian disaster at sea is the most pressing concern, a State Department official tells CNN the fundamental issue lies in Myanmar.

Assistant Secretary of State for Democracy, Human Rights and Labor, Tom Malinowski, told CNN's Hala Gorani that the U.S. has offered assistance and is urging the governments of Thailand, Malaysia and Indonesia to work together to conduct search and rescue missions, and to allow the refugees to land.

"Our first responsibility is to save lives and that is something that has to be done in the coming days and hours. In the longer run, the biggest challenge is to get at the root cause of this crisis, the treatment of the Rohingya population inside Myanmar."

Between 7,000 (official figure) and 300,000 (U.N. estimate) Rohingya migrants live in neighboring Bangladesh, many in U.N.-operated or illegal camps on the other side of the Bangladeshi-Myanmar border, but they are unable to work in the country and live in deplorable conditions.

The plight of the Rohingya currently abandoned at sea is exacerbated by the presence of Bangladeshi economic migrants in their midst. While many, including the UNHCR, see the Rohingya as legitimate refugees fleeing persecution, the Southeast Asian nations refusing to allow the ships cite the presence of economic migrants as a reason to refuse them refuge.

Matthew Smith of Fortify Rights, a non-profit human rights organization based in Southeast Asia, says Southeast Asian governments have the wherewithal to track and find them, but simply don't want to.

"Governments in the region are playing human ping-pong, pushing boats back out to sea while claiming to crackdown on human trafficking," he said. "All governments have a responsibility to protect survivors of trafficking and asylum seekers. No government can credibly claim to be combating trafficking while simultaneously creating a ready pool of desperate and insecure people at sea."

Malaysia
Charles Santiago, a Malaysian politician and chairman of the ASEAN Parliamentarians for Human Rights, said regional countries, as well as the U.S. and China, must push Myanmar to help the Rohingya.

"ASEAN promotes itself as an organization that promotes rule of law, democracy, a sharing and caring society... this is really a challenge, whereby the most vulnerable community in the region is now seeking help. And this isn't just any kind of help, this is a matter of life and death."

He said that the meetings in Malaysia and Thailand this week and next will be more about short-term solutions to the immediate crisis. In the longer term, he says that the regional governments have a role to play.

"The long-term solution is for ASEAN to put pressure on the Myanmar government to (implement) political reforms and make sure citizenship (for the Rohingya) is given."

Previously, however, a top Malaysian official had told CNN the surge of migrants from Myanmar and Bangladesh seeking asylum in his country and neighboring Indonesia in recent days is unwelcome -- and despite a U.N. appeal, his government will turn back any illegal arrivals.

"We cannot welcome them here," Malaysian Deputy Home Minister Wan Junaidi Jaafar said last week.

"If we continue to welcome them, then hundreds of thousands will come from Myanmar and Bangladesh."

Malaysia is hosting a meeting to discuss the issue in Kuala Lumpur on Wednesday, which will be attended by its foreign minister as well as those from Thailand and Indonesia.

"Malaysia remains committed to working closely with the affected countries and members of the international community in resolving this issue in the region. Malaysia will continue to seek a solution on this issue through, inter alia, concerted and coordinated efforts among the countries of origin, transit and destination."

READ: We will send Rohingya back, says Malaysia

Thailand
Rohingya migrant boat missing in the Andaman Sea
Rohingya migrant boat missing in the Andaman Sea 02:32
In the Andaman Sea, aboard a fishing vessel searching Thai waters for vessels carrying refugees, a CNN crew saw several Thai navy vessels on patrol.

Kraiwut Chusakul, a local fisherman, said he's seen one of the many boats filled with Rohingya refugees. "There are so many children on the boat," he said. "I think there must have been around 100 small children."

The boat Kraiwut saw hasn't been seen since, and despite searching and asking other fishing boats if any refugee ships had been spotted, the CNN crew also turned up a blank.

"I feel so sorry for them," Kraiwut said. "It's so different to when you see these refugees on land, and the conditions are so terrible."

Late last week, residents on Koh Lipe Island in southern Thailand could be seen collecting food, water and clothes to take to the migrants on board the boats, but since then the military has told them not to take supplies out to the boats, or to talk to journalists about the situation.

Fortify told CNN that patrol ships stay ahead of those searching for these ships, chasing them out of territorial waters, so journalists and rights groups cannot get a clear understanding of the situation.

The country will host trilateral talks between the foreign ministers of Indonesia, Malaysia and Thailand this week in an attempt to resolve the current impasse, and will again host a larger meeting of ASEAN nations on May 29.

Indonesia
Indonesian military spokesman Fuad Basya told CNN on May 18: "We have four navy vessels guarding our territorial waters in Aceh now. The policy remains -- we won't let any illegal migrants in."

Its foreign minister, Retno Marsudi, will attend meetings in Kuala Lumpur Wednesday in an attempt to find a solution to the growing humanitarian crisis.

However, she told reporters Tuesday that Indonesia has "given more than it should" to help those stranded at sea.

The UNHCR reports that, in the last week, Indonesian fishermen have rescued more than 1,300 Bangladeshis and Rohingya, whose vessels had entered Indonesian territorial waters after they drifted or swam to shore in Aceh and North Sumatran provinces.

The chief of the Aceh Search and Rescue Agency (SAR), Budiawan tells CNN approximately 100 migrants were rescued Wednesday by fishermen and the SAR.

However, Indonesian fishermen were being discouraged from actively searching for and rescuing stranded refugees.

"If they encounter any boats then of course they can rescue and tow them in, for humanitarian reasons. But their job is to catch fish and they shouldn't be going out to search for these boats," Basya said.

The Philippines
Despite being geographically distant from the epicenter of this growing humanitarian crisis, the Philippines has offered to allow the migrant boats landing rights.

The government quickly reacted to a report in local press saying that it would "push back to sea" any refugees that tried to land on Filipino soil.

Herminio Coloma Jr., a spokesperson for the country's Presidential Communications Operations Office said in a statement May 18 that the Philippines has extended humanitarian assistance for "boat people" in the past, citing its establishment of a processing center for Vietnamese migrants in the 1970s.

Citing the 1951 Convention Relating to the Status of Refugees, or which the Philippines is a signatory, Coloma said: "We shall continue to do our share in saving lives under existing and long-standing mechanisms pursuant to our commitments under the Convention."
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This is from back when we were innocent, long before this artificial Rohingya crisis by state sponsored terrorists.
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Just two years ago you know, when Barry O was in charge.
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Of course, you have to take into account that Myanmar wasn't democratic back then so the UN looked on it with utter pride back in 2013.
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It makes my blood boil, the godamn media, the fekkin UN , America which is supposed to a Christian nation, why the hue and cry now? When the Pakistani military was waging genocide ya ll were silent in 71. When all through the 2000s Myanmar was shackled by sanctions no one gave a ****. But now that suddenly its Indias largest trade partner and a democratic nation which has vowed to wipe out extremism and Chinese dependency, its all suddenly sanctimonious?
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