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Old 06-15-2010, 07:20 PM
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When Israel Nukes Damascus [It will] how do you think it will be delivered?
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Hopefully with you right underneath it. What a pr@t!
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Well said Pam!!

People like that dont realise if Israel Nuked Damascus the fallout could and would damage Israel,,
But make no mistake if Syria sends 10000 tanks against Israel Zahal will dystroy them in one 30 second sweep without even calling up reserves.
Put that in your t34 barrel and smoke it!
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When Israel Nukes Damascus [It will] how do you think it will be delivered?
Israel has no plans to nuke anyone. However there are other countries who would love to nuke Israel.
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Israel has no plans to nuke anyone. However there are other countries who would love to nuke Israel.

I'm sure that Israel would have plans to utilize their nukes on a moments notice if in fact that they have them :)
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I'm sure that Israel would have plans to utilize their nukes on a moments notice if in fact that they have them :)
of course they will...but they have to gve the internatuional community an answer for their action....so they shld hav a solid reason to do so....or else loads bad things will follow...GOD FORBID....
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of course they will...but they have to gve the internatuional community an answer for their action....so they shld hav a solid reason to do so....or else loads bad things will follow...GOD FORBID....

I was just merely pointing out that Israel probably have plans for every scenario though that does not necessary mean that they will start anything. Just giving Ron a hard time
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When Israel Nukes Damascus [It will] how do you think it will be delivered?
By most accounts, Israel has had nuclear weapons since 1966--not only before many forum members were born, but even before some of their parents were born. If Israel had really wanted to nuke Damascus, don't you think they would have done so by now ?

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People like that dont realise if Israel Nuked Damascus the fallout could and would damage Israel,,
Air bursts produce little fallout, and for surface bursts the fallout pattern is dependent on wind. As long as the wind isn't from the northeast, Israel will probably be safe. (Note that if Gaza was the target, this would generally not be true.)


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But make no mistake if Syria sends 10000 tanks against Israel Zahal will dystroy them in one 30 second sweep without even calling up reserves.
Put that in your t34 barrel and smoke it!
Actually, tanks and other armored vehicles are quite hard targets, and the kill radius for nuclear weapons rather small. Just think how much sturdier a tank is than a house. Unless the tanks are all congregated at their depots or in a similar compact area, it will take a lot of nukes to destroy a lot of tanks. The US didn't have 7000 tactical nuclear weapons in Europe at the height of the Cold War for no reason.
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I was just merely pointing out that Israel probably have plans for every scenario though that does not necessary mean that they will start anything. Just giving Ron a hard time
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Nukes? What nukes? Who said Israel has nukes? There is not official confirmation, and only suppositions.
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Nukes? What nukes? Who said Israel has nukes? There is not official confirmation, and only suppositions.
there is no confirmation bt there is also no denying by ISRAELI govt.....so also has a nuclear prog tht fuel such assumption.....
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Nukes? What nukes? Who said Israel has nukes? There is not official confirmation, and only suppositions.

Exactly my point from earlier though I would imagine that every nuke has a special destination "if' Israel indeed had them.
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Obviously the secular world - Jew and Gentile alike - disputes what the Lord has said through His inspired prophets.

In this case I refer to specifically Isaiah. Isaiah 17 clearly describes Damascus being destroyed overnight and the cities of Aroer suddenly becoming uninhabited. Damascus is so annihilated that no one will ever live there again. Clearly, this has never before occured in history and is thus a future event.

One could extrapolate from this that the populace of the "cities of Aroer" (western Jordan/Bashan of Aram) rapidly flees from the resulting wind-carried radioactive debris, leaving their livestock and worldly goods behind.

Also of note is the region of Ephraim in Israel proper does not escape the calamity. Most Bible eschatologists see Isaiah 17 immediately preceeding the war described by the seer Asaph in Psalm 83. Syrian/Hezbollah chemical warheads impacting northern or central Israel could well be the casus belli of Israel's nuking of Damascus in retaliation. At least one Israeli government leader has so stated this as a probable inevtiablity should Syria and Hezbollah strike Israel with WMD.

These events preceed and precipitate the prophecy of Ezekiel 38/39, the battle of Gog/Magog.

In Isaiah's, Asaph's and Ezekiel's successive prophecies notice which nations are present at first (an inner ring of Arab/Islamic nations bordering on Israel's current international borders), and which nations are present in the subsequent failed invasion (nations from the far north, Turkey, Iran, Libya and Sudan/Horn of Africa) and of whom only 1/6th of their immense numbers are not utterly destroyed by the Lord.

Also notice where this horde is buried over the subsequent 7 years. Ezekiel refers to this land as Israel proper, but today is it the Valley of the Passengers, near Dhiban, in the Hashemite Kingdom of Jordan.

Current events appear to be laying the groundwork for the literal fulfillment of these prophecies.

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Oh dear, I guess I wont be making Aliyah then.
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By most accounts, Israel has had nuclear weapons since 1966--not only before many forum members were born, but even before some of their parents were born. If Israel had really wanted to nuke Damascus, don't you think they would have done so by now ?

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Air bursts produce little fallout, and for surface bursts the fallout pattern is dependent on wind. As long as the wind isn't from the northeast, Israel will probably be safe. (Note that if Gaza was the target, this would generally not be true.)


Actually, tanks and other armored vehicles are quite hard targets, and the kill radius for nuclear weapons rather small. Just think how much sturdier a tank is than a house. Unless the tanks are all congregated at their depots or in a similar compact area, it will take a lot of nukes to destroy a lot of tanks. The US didn't have 7000 tactical nuclear weapons in Europe at the height of the Cold War for no reason.
this post is actually extremely interesting, could you please post any additional information you have on the subject? like the difference between air burst and ground burst fallout?

for years everyone in israel (the public at least) have been more afraid of fallout than anything else, any mention of nukes immediately gets a response of "the fallout will just come back and kill us"
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Obviously the secular world - Jew and Gentile alike - disputes what the Lord has said through His inspired prophets.

In this case I refer to specifically Isaiah. Isaiah 17 clearly describes Damascus being destroyed overnight and the cities of Aroer suddenly becoming uninhabited. Damascus is so annihilated that no one will ever live there again. Clearly, this has never before occured in history and is thus a future event.
Gee, I never gave it much thought--I guess I always assumed that one day their sewers would back up or something.

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this post is actually extremely interesting, could you please post any additional information you have on the subject? like the difference between air burst and ground burst fallout?

for years everyone in israel (the public at least) have been more afraid of fallout than anything else, any mention of nukes immediately gets a response of "the fallout will just come back and kill us"
Let me refer you to The Effects of Nuclear Weapons, Glasstone and Dolan, US Government Printing Office, 1977.

It is available for reading online as multiple PDFs at: http://www.princeton.edu/sgs/publica...icles/effects/

or the paperback can be purchased from Amazon for $77 (http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/160...SSFX1C9Q2HFNE4)

Additionally, there must be hundreds of thousands of copies lying around, as at one time it was distributed by all US government bookstores.
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Gee, I never gave it much thought--I guess I always assumed that one day their sewers would back up or something.

Let me refer you to The Effects of Nuclear Weapons, Glasstone and Dolan, US Government Printing Office, 1977.

It is available for reading online as multiple PDFs at: http://www.princeton.edu/sgs/publica...icles/effects/

or the paperback can be purchased from Amazon for $77 (http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/160...SSFX1C9Q2HFNE4)

Additionally, there must be hundreds of thousands of copies lying around, as at one time it was distributed by all US government bookstores.
thanks a lot, tried to skim but wayyy too complicated, ill try when i have more time
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I'm sure that Israel would have plans to utilize their nukes on a moments notice if in fact that they have them :)
Well my point was, even if Israel has them, they dont want to use them.

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I was just merely pointing out that Israel probably have plans for every scenario though that does not necessary mean that they will start anything. Just giving Ron a hard time
Giving me a hard time is somewhat a pastime for you XtraFresh it seems.
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Well my point was, even if Israel has them, they dont want to use them.



Giving me a hard time is somewhat a pastime for you XtraFresh it seems.
while i agree with you that xtrafresh did seem to have a habbit of giving you a hard time, i personally think this forum should relish such debate instead of squashing any such occurrences by banning the member/s responsible for this behavior, as long as the member doesnt spam and continue to spread propaganda/lies, after all, you can always just delete the post/ignore it...

dont know about the rest of you, but combining my love for arguing (heheh ) and my genuine belief that what i believe in is in fact the right thing/the truth, ive made it a mission of mine to change as many people's opinions as possible...

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while i agree with you that xtrafresh did seem to have a habbit of giving you a hard time, i personally think this forum should relish such debate instead of squashing any such occurrences by banning the member/s responsible for this behavior, as long as the member doesnt spam and continue to spread propaganda/lies, after all, you can always just delete the post/ignore it...

dont know about the rest of you, but combining my love for arguing (heheh ) and my genuine belief that what i believe in is in fact the right thing/the truth, ive made it a mission of mine to change as many people's opinions as possible...

just my opinion... thought id say it
Joe, I will kindly ask you to read this last page of the thread, so you see that XtraFresh was banned for far more than just some of his posts, he is a double face lier, who wouldnt stop sending me PMs defending members who said they are anti Israel:

http://www.israelmilitary.net/showth...?t=3695&page=5

If you have any other disagrements as to why we banned him, please address yourself to the admin Johnboy.
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